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[size=7]‘Desire’ Podcast - 321 --- April 30, 2007[/size] 04.30.07 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers discuss "Desire" and hint at what's on "The Other Side of This Life" (5/3/07). 04.30.07 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers discuss "Desire" and hint at what's on "The Other Side of This Life" (5/3/07). The Chief removes a fish from a whoo whoo, George puts in for a transfer, and Addison abandons the project with Sloan. The insiders view on all that and more in today’s official Grey’s Anatomy podcast. The title of this week’s episode is ‘Desire.’ Desire for success, desire to be loved, desire for normalcy. Desire can make us do strange things. It can ruin lives, or it can jump start them. And it looks like Addison may be in for a jump start. To find out more about her upcoming journey and everyone else’s trials and tribulations, we turn, as usual, to executive producers, Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers. They will recap ‘Desire’ and drop a few hints about next weeks two hour episode, ‘The Other Side of This Life.’ Hi, I’m Shonda Rhimes, and I’m Betsy Beers, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. Wow, it is kind of late in the season here; we are getting into the good stuff now. Things are starting to get a little bit juicy, although I’m not sure juicy is the word you want to use when referring to a penis fish. Oh, I think that is probably wise. I think, juicy and penis fish together is just worrisome. It makes your skin crawl, a little bit! Okay, well, let’s just start with the word ‘penis fish.’ I mean, juicy is one thing, but a penis fish, I mean right there is the most worrisome phrase you could ever here as a male, especially if you are going to the doctor. I just want to share with everyone that the phrase penis fish has been around the writer’s room since season one, and very early on in season one. We have been trying to get the story of the penis fish into this show for three seasons now. Absolutely. And I have to give a shout out to Mark Wilder, who recently won a GLAAD award for his episode about camping, and not only did he win a GLAAD award, he cracked the penis fish. He did. And, as we said, the penis fish was one of those ideas that was so big, that it overwhelmed a lot of the other storylines that we tried to tell with it. And frankly, in season one, a lot of unfortunate things happened with men’s penises. And it seemed like we had a thing against the penis, so we tried to hold off, a little bit, because you know, we had the woman who bit off a man’s penis, and George got the syph, it just seemed like a lot of bad things were happening to the penis, so we took a break. I like to think we warmed up for this story when we had the piercing story, because I think it was like the warm up for this story. It kind of got people ready again for the idea of the penis fish. Two painful penises a year, that’s our limit. I think that is probably true. The point is, we were all absolutely fascinated by the idea of this Candiru fish, that if you urinate in the Amazon, can swim up the stream of your urine, and lodge itself in your penis, and can cause you enormous amounts of pain. In the writer’s room, I can’t begin to tell you how much excitement this caused. And also because it does, as we often do on Grey’s Anatomy, the theme and the medicine are connected, is so ultimately the theme of this episode which is why it was so great, that the penis fish was finally appropriate. Part of the reason why we never got the story working in one of the shows is you have to pee into the Amazon. So to go from the Amazon to Seattle; and there were many stories in which we couldn’t really justify how someone would make it from the Amazon to Seattle Grace. But then we came up with the idea of a rich guy nobody likes with a private jet. He’s not a good man. He’s actually having an affair, which is the other thing I love, is the reveal that she might have something wrong with her too, which reveal the entire ‘He’s cheating on his wife.’ Which parallels the George and Izzie story, which is just great, because the ultimate, hideous, possible result of such action, clearly…You know what I liked was the idea that he was a man, the guy who was sick was a man who was not the best man, or the greatest man, or the kindest man, obviously, having this affair, and sort of the nasty side of what an affair is. And then you have George and Izzie, who are doing the exact same thing, and yet we feel for them. It is still the nasty side of an affair, which they both know, and it really brings out the seediness of what is going on here, because no matter what kind of spin you put on it, you are still a person who could be with a person who has a fish in their penis, and can’t tell their wife. Exactly. And also, the other thing that I loved, was he’s not only a big business guy, he is the most important board member for the hospital. And it also shines a different light on what the race for chief means, and also the kind of person you have to be in order to do one of those jobs. A parallel with Richard, whose not. Who works in exactly the opposite way. And what is rewarded in life? The guy with the private jet, who is clearly not being rewarded by the little fishy guy who is swimming around in his penis? Karma, karma. But, is Richard right? What kind of chief will be the best chief? There is no answer right now. There is absolutely no answer. We are still curious about that, because I don’t know what makes the best chief. We have a lot of candidates, and they are all good, but they are all really different. It’s an open question. My other favorite thing about this episode was Ava. I became really obsessed with the idea that Ava spends all of her time in this hospital bed, watching basically the Seattle Grace Show go on outside her doors. She gets the best version of Grey’s Anatomy because she is right in the hospital. She knows all the gossip, she sees everything that goes on, people have nicknames for her, like she calls Addison ‘Red,’ and there is just a lot of wonderful nuances to the fact that she just spends all her time listening to what’s happening, and that was really fun. And also since she doesn’t have a memory, there is nothing else to fill her head. It really grounds Ava in our world, and you get to see how close she has become with Alex, close enough to gossip, close enough to sort of see everything that is going on, and it gives you a really good window into this world of Addison, and her thoughts about Alex, and her worries about Mark, as well as Callie. I think there is something really wonderful about the moment when Addison says to her, purely born out of her own worries about Mark, ‘If you think that there is something going on, there probably is…’ Because, you know, that’s where she has been, and then Callie turning around and going to Izzie and saying “Give me my husband back.” It all tied in really, really well. And also I think that whole idea of how Alex Karev is categorized in people’s heads, like, because Alex is still the guy who we don’t know very much about, and when you think about this show, all the characters on this show, we have gotten to know a lot more about each of them by meeting their families, or by hearing about their back story, you know, with what Izzie has been going through recently. Alex is the guy we know the least about. He’s pretty much the guy you project all your fantasy on, because the idea that Alex is the guy who, at the end of the day will do the right thing, and have the barbeque and the kids is so incredibly enticing. Except he’s also the guy that when you tell him that he would have the barbeque and the kids he tells you ‘You’re not my girlfriend. No offence.’ Though clearly there is a lot more there than might meet the eye. The other surprising person in all that, is Mark, by the way, who stepped up in a very odd way that…I don’t want to talk too much about it because it is explored further in the next episode. I don’t want to point to it too much, but the Mark thing is really interesting, and does speak of a soul-change that we are watching him go through, and have been watching him go through since he arrived. I know we all just sit around and call him a manwh0re, but I think this episode says something really interesting. That was gorgeous, and there is a little bit more under the manwh0re surface. Now, the cake thing, which I just love. Katie Heigl ate like all the cakes, because she is like the thinnest person in the world in this great, fabulous way, and she loves to eat. So she really went for that whole cake thing. It was funny and great! I think it works incredibly well, and I have to agree with her choice. Yes, the red velvet is always a nice way to go. What was great about the Burktina cake extravaganza was simply the idea that Burke was planning the wedding, and how Cristina was so not interested, or involved. But she gives him a little something at the end. She will go with the red velvet. There is a little bit of charm to that, and a little bit of hope. And her not knowing how much she cares, and her not knowing how to express how much she cares, so it sort of slips out of her, and I think that she is as surprised as anything. And it is also really wonderful they all agreed on a cake without knowing it… The other thing I liked was that they are all studying for the intern exam which is coming. One of the more fun scenes we have ever done, just because they are all yelling and screaming and having a really good time. But also, I just love the idea that here you are, you’re a doctor, you are supposed to know what you are doing, you’ve been out of med school, but you still have to study for these exams, and if you don’t pass these exams, you’re screwed. Like there was something really great about them having that big old study group, that was really fun, and it reminds me of one of my favorite scenes in an episode which was the games night. It has that very similar feeling to it, and you realize that there is not much difference between getting your boyfriend to say Madonna and actually figuring out how you perform surgeries and operations, and what those procedures mean. Now, how are you feeling about Meredith and Derek, right now? I’m a little worried about the Mer. And I’m a little worried about the Der. The little MerDer is a little bit worrying. I think it is hard, I think it is really, really hard for him right now. It is really hard for him because for me, what was really important about the season, and the ferry episodes was that Derek realizes that the thing that he loves most in the world is no longer his career, and all the things that he thought it was, it is Meredith. And that he is with somebody who doesn’t necessarily want to swim. So he can’t necessarily trust her to actually be there. But I think it is much more than that, even metaphorically, and just emotionally. Metaphorically he is with someone who doesn’t necessarily know if she wants to swim. And for him, that was probably the most terrifying thing that happened, was that he was faced with the idea of losing her. Really, really clearly and cleanly, like he reached a point of realizing what life would be like without her, and now he can’t trust her to remain there. And so he feels like he always has to be the one who is hyper vigilant, and he is always around trying to swim for her. That is starting to both freak him out, and frustrate him because he doesn’t know if he can be in a relationship that’s like that, which I think is a very honest place to be, for a person. But then I have to defend Meredith’s side. This is a woman who has never really been in a relationship, who lost her Mother, who is desperately trying to figure out where her loyalties lie, and from the point that Derek came back said, you know what, Cristina was there when you weren’t there for me. So I think that she is somebody who is having a really active battle in her own brain, consciously or not, as to how much she wants to swim. But also the experience of drowning for her was a very different experience to Derek’s, and we talk about that in the next episode. But he comes out of that thinking, omg, I could lose her, and she comes out of it realizing that she doesn’t want to be lost, so they are in different places. But it is interesting how everything goes back to the water. We are deeply water specific with this episode, and with this show. It’s all about swimming. And at the end of the episode Addison walks out of the hospital, into the great unknown. Yeah, how about that. How about that, Alex looks at her and says, “You’re not my girlfriend.” And then she walks off with a both confused and determined look on her face, which could mean any number of things… That is all we will say about that, because next week we have to say we have a really big double episode. Two brand new hours of Grey’s Anatomy, and some saucy, hot special guest stars. It is going to be good. So, I’m Betsy Beers, and I’m Shonda Rhimes, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. Posted: Apr 30 2007, 02:48 AM - jenlou1986......thanks Jenna :D |
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