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oncetherewasaway	Aug 12 2007, 10:27 AM
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]PODCAST[/size] Grey's Anatomy official podcast, May 2, 2008. 4.13 "Piece of My Heart" Izzie envies George’s popularity among the interns, Cristina tries to talk “girl,” and Addison returns to Seattle Grace…temporarily. All that and more in today’s Official Grey’s Anatomy Podcast hosted by ABC.com. Let’s get right to the good stuff, shall we? Executive producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers have a lot to say about the last episode “Piece of my Heart” because, well, a lot happened. They also tantalize us with a few tidbits about the next episode, “The Becoming,” which airs Thursday, May 8th, 9pm/8pm central on ABC. Shonda and Betsy, over to you. SR: Hi, I’m Shonda. BB: I’m Betsy. SR/BB: And this is Grey’s Anatomy. BB: So, we’re back. SR: We are back. BB: It’s really nice to be back, sort of on a consistent basis, and I keep getting… still get enjoyment when I walk into the office and see everybody’s there which is good. SR: The shows are coming along really well. BB: The shows are coming along great. And one of the big exciting things is that just in case people don’t know (but they probably know by now) is our big season finale is two parts now instead of one. SR: Yup. And we’re filming it now. BB: We’re filming it now. And so, it’s sorta double the Grey’s and double the trouble and double the fun. SR: And it has a really good ending. BB: It’s got such a good ending… SR: I’m pretty proud of it. BB: That I can actually say cause I didn’t write it, she did, that it’s a really, really, really good ending. And actually the whole two parter is great, and it’s also gonna air from nine to eleven which means that it’s two parts together which is my favorite thing, because you just literally have a chance to go to the bathroom, get some ice cream, and come back and then it’s right back there. SR: Get your Grey’s on. BB: Exactly. Which is great, so we’re all really excited about that. And, um. SR: But we’re here to talk about… BB: Yeah, a more recent episode which you saw last night. SR: Piece of My Heart. BB: Piece of My Heart, which is, I think, awesome for millions of different reasons but for me, first and foremost, because you actually get to see Addison at Seattle Grace again. SR: I was gonna say, it’s sorta all Addison, all the time, which is really, really good. BB: It’s really, really good. And you know, I’ve gotten used to her in her sort of California dreaming, relaxation look… SR: Yeah. BB: But to see her back in her power shoes and her skirt is great. SR: But what I love is that you can sort of put the girl back in her Louis Vuittons, but you can’t really take the California out of the girl. She spends the episode kinda being like “Hey, I’m Zen, I’ve changed, and it’s great.” BB: She quotes Gandhi. SR: Which I thought was wonderful. BB: Which is terrific, and that actually Izzie knew she quoted Gandhi, which is really good. SR: Yeah. And I just love, I love the first moment when she sees Meredith and Derek and she hugs Meredith. And she’s all proud of herself. BB: I hug now! SR: But she doesn’t even realize they’ve broken up, which is even better. It’s just pure Addison, which is wonderful. BB: I think it’s awesome, but I also think it was great for me because it’s sort of like you get to see a little closure for Addison which you never really got to see before because she comes and she reevaluates and she assesses. And look, her old job is open. They haven’t hired a neonatal care specialist. Special special gynecological person person surgical worldclass who pulls babies out and sews things up, exactly. SR: Yeah. BB: So the fact is, technically she could’ve come back. I mean, I don’t think she would have because she lives in Los Angeles with a group of people that hopefully you guys know. SR: I was gonna say, I don’t know if you guys noticed, but she has her own show. BB: She does, which will be coming back in the fall. SR: Private Practice. Wednesday nights. BB: Yes, exactly. Nine o’clock. But it was also great, everybody was really happy to see Kate again. I think, in terms of the cast, too, I think it was just really fun to have her around. SR: It was fun. It was just a little bit of old home week. It was very nice. BB: So that was, I think, really exciting, and I also think seeing, right now, Seattle Grace through her eyes threw a totally different perspective on a lot of different things. I would say certainly first and foremost and most both humorously and upsetting for some of them was her opinion on Callie and Erica Hahn. SR: Yeah. BB: Which I think is great. SR: Which I love, you know, she says are you guys speakin the Vagina Monologues now, which I thought was just a great way into the whole thing. And poor Callie’s having a little bit of a panic about the whole concept was, I thought, really interesting. BB: I totally agree. I totally, totally agree. SR: It’s that thing that, you know, she wasn’t thinking about, you know, until somebody pointed out that maybe she should be thinking about it. And then, that is all you can think about. BB: Then you become deeply, deeply self-conscious about it. But it was also Addison just assuming with this big ole grin on her face… SR: Yeah. BB: That she’d missed a lot. SR: Very open. BB: Totally. SR: And well, by that point, she felt like she had missed a lot. BB: And she had. SR: She found out that Meredith and Derek had broken up. BB: Bailey’s acting weird. SR: And Derek has a new girlfriend, so by that point she felt like things had changed a lot, maybe. BB: It’s true. SR: So she’s asking a question, which I thought was kind of great. BB: Absolutely. I also really, really loved the moment and the very end where she looks at Meredith and she says if you let him go off with that doe-eyed thing. SR: Yeah. BB: I mean, basically I’ll kick your ass which…I don’t know, that’s just… SR: Which I loved because for Addison to have you know, had her marriage fall apart, have let it go, to have walked away from it, she’d walked away accepting the idea that it because Meredith and Derek were meant to be together because Derek loved Meredith and she’d sort of accepted that concept. It was okay that this had all happened because Derek had found the love of his life. And then to come back and find out that he’s not with the quote-unquote love of his life, he’s now with a very nice, McReboundy nurse was a little bit upsetting for her. BB: I think absolutely the case. I think that’s absolutely the case. And I think, in a weird way for Meredith, too, who’s desperately trying to adjust to the fact that Derek’s got a new girlfriend, who’s trying to move on, but you can see it’s incredibly a) painful for her, and cool.gif she doesn’t feel like it’s right, either, and I think Addison’s call to arms in a weird way gave her the courage to then start dealing in some weird way in a much more active way. SR: Yes. BB: Either healing and moving on or not. But I think Addison’s acknowledgement of her pain whether or not she sees it—and Addison’s own pain at the ridiculousness of it—means that she’s not alone, and that was really cool to me. SR: It was a nice way to put it. BB: In a way these two people come together - the dirty, dirty mistress and the ex-wife, and it’s basically the ex-wife saying… SR: Satan and the dirty mistress, yeah… BB: It’s true, Satan’s got a sense of humor. It’s true, but I thought, it’s a very odd bedfellows situation, but one that you’ve sort of seen coming forever and… SR: They both love the same guy. BB: They both do. SR: In their own ways. BB: And I think that was just really, really great. SR: The other thing I loved was Bailey. Because we haven’t really talked about what’s been going on with Bailey since we saw her in episode 4.11 when her baby was in trouble. BB: And her husband goes to stay at a hotel. SR: And her husband goes to stay at a hotel which is the last thing you find out, and we haven’t really talked about it. And one of the things I love about Bailey – I’ve always loved about her – is that her personal life is always sort of separate from the hospital, like we don’t like follow a lot of her personal life. BB: Yeah. SR: Which is why it was so interesting to do the episode where her baby comes in sick. But also, what was great about it was, there are details about Bailey that you just never know, like you don’t know for 12 or 13 episodes even that Bailey has a husband in the beginning. BB: You didn’t know actually until you see her in a dress, because it’s like the… SR: Going out for her anniversary dinner. BB: And then she has to come back because the train wreck. SR: Yes. BB: And it’s this huge revelation, I remember, when you—when it came up in the script –this huge revelation because we never really talked about it cause Bailey was just Bailey, but then to find out that SR: She’s pretty happily married. BB: She’s pretty happily married. She’s all saucy in her evening wear. And then… SR: And you get to see a piece of that marriage in the Super Bowl episode when her husband’s had the accident and she has the baby and she brings him that fabulous baby and says this is our son, which I love. William George Bailey Jones. BB: That’s right. SR: Who they call Tuck, for inexplicable reasons. But… BB: Named after his father, but not. SR: But what I love about it is, is just the idea that in this episode, you know, she’s holding it in. You realize that basically for her she’s holding in everything she can hold in so that she can keep it together. And she has that one beautiful long speech to Addison about how her husband’s not, you know, home anymore and how she hasn’t slept alone in 12 years and now she is and how much her heart hurts, and you realize that Bailey who goes about the business being Bailey like nobody I’ve ever seen, you know, keeps on with keeping on, is in incredible pain. BB: Well, and what I think is weird for Bailey is that it’s a lot harder for Bailey to actually have a friend in the hospital than it is for her not to have friends in the hospital, and that’s—I think Addison sorta became-- SR: Well, She is the one who keeps her personal life completely separate. BB: Absolutely, and so when confronted with someone who had sorta become a friend before she left. SR: It’s very difficult. BB: It’s incredibly difficult because it really, really puts her ability to keep a lid on things in question. Which is what’s so moving to watch this whole episode, realizing that there’s something she has to say and we’re curious too. I spent a fair amount of the episode going “What’s going on with Bailey?” SR: Why did she look like that? BB: Why did she look like that. BB/SR: PHONE!!! BB: That’s the phone. And we have a different assistant now, we used to have Jim, now we have Nancy, who’s great, and if you notice she answers the phone really quickly. SR: Immediately. BB: So, Jim liked to let it ring a few times for entertainment’s sake. Nancy gets to the point. I think that’s key. SR: The other thing that happens in this episode is that Jane Doe/Rebecca/Ava whatever you want to call her comes back. BB: I was gonna say…Every once in a while I see Rebecca or hear the name Rebecca and I have to stop and I go, “Hey, who’s Rebecca? She’s Ava!” SR: Because for me, she’s Ava and sometimes she’s Jane Doe, but mostly she’s Ava. Alex named her Ava, she’s Ava. BB: But she became Ava when she came back. SR: Yeah. But what I think is beautiful about that is, you know, that’s kinda the point. That she says to Alex at the end of last season that I was more me as Ava than I ever was as Rebecca. And so to us, spiritually, emotionally, she is Ava. But her name is Rebecca Pope. BB: Thank you. SR: Rebecca Pope. BB: Just keep remembering… SR/BB: Rebecca Pope. SR: And she comes back, and, um, tells Alex that there’s a bun in the oven. BB: There’s a tiny little bun, but there’s a bun. SR: There’s something growing there. BB: Bun nonetheless. Cause I think it’s, uh…She seems to know it, too, like she’s been pregnant before, so she has a pretty good sense as to her body. SR: Yeah. BB: And I love Alex’s entire attitude. SR: This is not a thing you want me for. BB: This is not something you want me for. It recalls back the end of last season when he says to Addison, you know, I’m not the guy with the barbecue, and the…I can’t quote it exactly because I’m not you, but it’s that whole speech about “I’m not that guy, I’m not that guy that you want me to be, or think that I am.” But even then you see Alex struggling with it a bit. And this-- SR: Yeah, he’s always struggling with it. BB: He is. SR: His dark past. BB: His dark past, and the thing about Alex, too, is that Alex and Bailey are the two that you just don’t really know what happened. SR: You don’t know anything about. And my favorite thing about this – I don’t know if I’ve talked about it before – but in the drowning episodes where Meredith is dead, and Denny is talking to her, and he says, you know, Izzie lost me, and Cristina – he tells this whole beautiful story about how Cristina lost her father in a car accident and was there when he died, and he goes on and on and on talking about everybody, and then he goes “and Alex…” and Meredith cuts him off. So you still never find out what happened to Alex. BB: It’s true. SR: I do think you’ll find out a little bit more about what happened to Alex by the end of the season. BB: I think you will, too. I think, much like Bailey, just a little bit. SR: Just a little bit of reveal. BB: But just enough to kinda give this entire thing a context and a sense of perspective. SR: But, it was great to have her back and I think it’s going to be very interesting to watch what happens with her and Alex especially if I don’t know if you saw that last moment when Izzie said “My patient’s not pregnant?” BB: Rebecca Pope? SR: And then Alex puts his hand on Rebecca Pope’s belly. And then maybe you might wonder what’s going on here? BB: Maybe just a little bit. SR: What’s going down? BB: Something’s kind of odd. SR: Something’s fishy. BB: Maybe Izzie’s crazy. SR: Something smells rotten. BB: Maybe Izzie’s going through the same thing she went through last week which is she’s gonna give Rebecca a spinal tap for absolutely no reason. Just to see if she’s really pregnant. I don’t know, but I doubt it, because I think Izzie’s a little better doctor than that so… SR: Maybe there’s aliens in there. Maybe the show’s going a whole different way with aliens. BB: Maybe we’re sort of combining with Lost. Maybe there’s going to be a hatch in a hospital, and aliens will come out. Hi, Damon. SR: What’s up, Damon? BB: Hey Damon! How’s it going? SR: That’s our last shout out… BB: So I think that’s going to be really, really, really exciting and fun to watch. I think on the totally the other end of the spectrum is Cristina. SR: Yeah. BB: Who is in her own world of living hell. I mean, this is a woman who pretty much could operate almost independently as a surgeon. SR: She’s trying so—what I love in this episode is she’s trying so hard to get along or to find a way in with Hahn, and it’s very—it was distressing to her to find out that Hahn and Callie were friends in the first place, and now, not only that, like she can’t seem to make any inroads. I mean, I love that moment when she’s like “Hippies, annoying, huh?” And then Hahn’s like “Go away.” It’s horrible because she really doesn’t know how to talk girl. And I love the scene where she desperately tries to talk girl and fails miserably. BB: Yeah, which is great. Does it hurt your heart? SR: Yeah. BB: I like does it hurt your heart. For some reason, I just think that’s incredibly funny. SR: I love that that’s how she thinks other people talk about their feelings. BB: She’s trying. SR: Yeah. BB: It’s just – that’s what she sees on television. SR: Exactly. BB: Every once in a while I think now and in the future of Grey’s Anatomy, somebody should just say “does that hurt your heart” to justify the fact that Cristina thinks that’s what women talk like. But she’s trying so hard, and it’s like the end of last episode which just breaks my heart where she walks in the house and the two of them are having a good time, and… SR: And she’s on the outside looking in, and she desperately wants to be in with Erica Hahn. And she’s…it’s just not gonna happen. BB: And Hahn is being a real hard ass. I mean Addison had a totally great moment where she looks at her and says “a little harsh, don’t you think?” SR: But I also think Erica has a point because when she says she reminds me of me, it puts everything in perspective. That and she can’t stand it. She just can’t stand watching this girl desperately seek all this approval that she’s never gonna get. BB: No, it’s absolutely true. The other thing that I just have to mention – it’s just one of my favorite things is “you coded.” SR: Oh, you coded. You coded was something we came up with in the writer’s room… BB: Ok, that made me laugh until stuff came out of my nose when I first read it. SR: And Alan Heinberg –one of our writers, Alan Heinberg—is I think the one who came up with the exact phrase and the hand gesture. The hand gesture was then amended and changed by T.R., and it’s one of our favorite things. I think we’re actually going to have t-shirts that have the little “you coded” symbol on it. BB: That say “you coded,” cause “you coded” is just the little murmurings of all the interns. SR: You coded, you coded…Hey dude, you coded. I love that! BB: Where’s Izzie’s sitting around and saying what is that? And then Izzie tries to say “you coded.” SR: Oh, that’s the best moment where she’s like “What? It’s a new phrase, everyone’s saying it.” And she’s trying so hard. BB: And she wants to… SR: She just wants to get in with George. BB: She does, and the thing is, they’re both caught in between worlds. SR: Yes. BB: Professionally because I think right now George is caught in between being a resident and being an intern, and Izzie’s caught between knowing what she wants to do and not knowing what she wants to do. SR: Yeah. BB: And in the resident world, everybody else is directed, and Izzie’s lost, she’s at sea, so the only thing which is familiar and cozy for her is the world of “you coded.” But she almost ruins their darts night. SR: Yeah, yeah. It’s pretty funny. BB: That’s really funny I thought, so…I know. I know. SR: That was great…Um, Hahn and Callie. BB: Hahn and Callie. SR: What is there to say? BB: What do you want to say about Hahn and Callie? SR: I love the moment when Hahn takes the hair out of the lip gloss, and Callie gets that look on her face, and then decides she must dance with Mark Sloan and then take him home. BB: It’s the pure deer in the headlights look that she’s got. SR: Yeah, there is a panic happening there. BB: There’s a total panic… SR: Which, you know…if somebody tries to redefine you in a way that you’re not ready to be defined, I get the freaking out. BB: Totally. Well, I think it makes total, total sense. And also, since Mark Sloan’s always been the desperate recreational activity of people who don’t really know what they want to do? SR: Well, Mark’s useful for that. BB: He is very useful for that. He’s got a real purpose in terms of that. SR: And I love the moment when she says to Meredith and Cristina, “Does anyone ever think that you guys are a couple?” And they’re like “No, cause we screw boys like whores on tequila. Don’t try to marry us, we’ll drown ourselves.” BB: I think that’s maybe one of my favorite lines of all time. SR: Yeah, it’s one of my favorites. Yeah. BB: I think I can probably espouse to that in my life. I think it’s a good thing to have in your back pocket. SR: Absolutely. BB: Tequila and dirty whores is I think really, really good. You know, I think the whole thing with Phillip…I think, I love, I love that character. SR: Yeah, Jason O’Mara. BB: That just upset me so much, and I know that there’s maybe a way they can solve this brain problem, but I… SR: They’re working on solving the brain problem. BB: They’re working on solving the brain problem… SR: But they didn’t solve it with Phillip. BB: And the thing with Phillip, just watching Phillip go through the changes. I mean, you said something really interesting actually last week when we were talking about this stuff, that this week’s Phillip is totally different than last week’s Phillip. SR: Yes. When Phillip comes in… BB: We didn’t have a recap, actually. SR: Yeah, we didn’t have a recap on purpose because when Phillip comes in, he’s so altered by the effects of the tumor that he is in fact a different guy. BB: And we consistently see that it’s the same guy and his rebound girl certainly sees that it’s the same guy, but it’s a totally different person. And I think real kudos to Jason O’Mara who can play both parts incredibly well, like Jekyll and Hyde. SR: Yeah, he was brilliant. That was not an easy role to play at all. BB: I know. I mean, laughing when you get the news of a brain tumor, and then just screaming like a vicious man. SR: All the rage and yeah. BB: And then flipping back so fast? SR: And yet, still being someone that you—that we, the audience root for is really interesting. BB: It’s that moment where Derek stops him before they go into surgery to remind him to get himself back to who he is. SR: Say something nice to your wife. BB: So he can say something nice to his wife. That just breaks your heart. I mean, absolutely just breaks your heart. But I’m really curious about the experimentation and the brain surgery, I think that’s— SR: The clinical trials with the cocktail of virus. BB: But also that for the first time in a really long time, Meredith seems to really have a purpose. SR: I love that Meredith has a purpose. I love it that she is on this mission to save these patients. I think it’s going to be a really interesting journey for her. BB: And I think also obviously the irony being that she seems to be really taking a good shine to brain surgery and she has to constantly confront guess who. SR: Derek. BB: Because there don’t seem to be a whole lot of great brain surgeons floating around Seattle Grace. It’s not like she can call Dr. Phone-Bone who’s the other great brain surgeon and then do this because a) I think Derek would probably be a little offended and then cool.gif as far as we know, for the periods of time that we’re there, Derek is the brain surgeon on call. SR: It also would’ve been difficult if what she decided to do was to save people who got liposuction or something. It wouldn’t have made it as interesting. BB: So there she would’ve been working with Dr. Sloan. SR: Wouldn’t have been as interesting. BB: No. And maybe not as sympathetic. SR: Not as sympathetic. BB: When you say that was a bad liposuction accident, I think we need to do some… SR: There was a little more fat on the left glut than the right. BB: There was some scarring that occurred with that liposuction. SR: I can’t really imagine any weeping going on... BB: You know that’d be hard to place music to. SR: …or any great love stories. BB: Exactly, the big liposuction montage I think would be a little bit rough. SR: As someone examines their liposuctioned thighs. BB: It’d be really tough. SR: The other thing that we did on the show, which I was actually very proud of and was spearheaded by our medical researcher Elizabeth (???) was we told an HIV mom story. What was great about that is not only did we tell an HIV mom story, but we actually participated in a study so that we would tell this HIV mom story, get out a piece of information, and then Kaiser surveyed people to see how many people knew—understood that an HIV positive mother could have a healthy baby before the show aired and how many people understood than an HIV positive mom could have a healthy baby after the show aired. BB: And we’re actually waiting for those—PHONE! SR: PHONE! BB: We’re actually waiting for the results of that, but I think it’s one of the ways we can actually be useful. SR: Well, yeah, there have been several powerful studies that people get – and this is terrifying to me, it was terrifying to me when I started the show – but that more people get their medical information from watching television dramas than they do from their doctors. BB: Which is actually why it’s a double burden on us to make sure that we’re accurate when we bring cases. SR: Yeah, we try really hard to be accurate. BB: Because it ends up being a sort of social responsibility in a way since people are getting a huge amount of their medical information here. SR: And there’s a thing that you come away with from this episode which I honestly didn’t know— BB: I didn’t either. SR: That there is a larger chance that your baby will be born with Down’s Syndrome than your child will be born with HIV. BB: It’s true. SR: 98% chance that you’re going to have a healthy baby if you take your meds and you go and get medical help. That was really interesting to me, and also I thought, just a lovely story. BB: And what’s interesting, too, in terms of feedback initially is that in talking about this people said well, of course everyone would know this. Doctors would know this, this isn’t out. The fact that none of us knew it is a huge indicator, I think, of the fact that actually, no, it’s not something that’s well known. SR: And while many doctors know it, the thing that is really interesting that I learned from Elizabeth when she was doing her research was that while many doctors know it, there are a lot of doctors not willing to treat HIV positive moms simply because it’s difficult. So it was really interesting information to get out. BB: It was great and I’m hoping we can do something like that in the future because I think that— SR: We like to do good. BB: We like to do good instead of evil. Next week… SR: Next week, on Grey’s Anatomy… BB: I know, we have an episode called “The Becoming.” SR: And that is a really good episode. BB: Oh, this is just like… SR: That is full of juicy, juicy goodness. BB: This is really good. SR: It’s really good. I also… BB: A lot of stuff comes to a head in this episode. SR: You’re going to want to buy the DVD when it comes out because we’re going to do an extended version of that episode BB: It’s gonna be extra long SR: Because it was like a sixty-six minute show, and we only show forty-two on the air, and there’s a lot of good stuff in there and you’re going to really enjoy it. BB: Yeah, and the stuff that actually is going to be included in the DVD extended, I think you’re really going to enjoy, and it’s really going to help the enjoyment factor watching the whole episode later, so… SR: Yes. I mean, you’ll enjoy it when you see it next week, but you’ll enjoy it even more when you see it on the DVD. BB: So we’re really hoping you tune in because a lot of stuff happens… SR: You better tune in. BB: …on “The Becoming,” and if you want to really enjoy that super, super last three episode finale package… SR: Yeah BB: …then you want to watch this episode. SR: Yeah, there’s a moment that, at the end of the episode that if you miss it you’re going to be really bummed because it’s pretty awesome. BB: Really annoyed. It’s pretty good. It’s really, really pretty good. SR: Yeah. BB: So, I hope you’re back next week. We’re looking forward to talking to you. This is Betsy. SR: Shonda. BB: And this is Grey’s Anatomy. Posted by Alison (GreysAddict522) May 2 2008, 07:02 PM This post has been edited by oncetherewasaway on May 2 2008, 10:58 PM


4.13 Piece of My Heart · SEASON 4