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Grey’s Anatomy Official Podcast: 10/17/08


It was a brave new world on several friends at Seattle Grace Hospital. Callie and Erica explored unchartered territory. George passed his exams. And Cristina discovered the polar opposite of the surgery ward: The dermatology wing.

Welcome to the official Grey's Anatomy pod cast. Executive Producer Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers are back to take us on a journey through the most recent episode "Brave New World." And we'll even drop some hints about what's coming up in the future. Speaking of future episodes be sure to tune in to ABC on Thursday, October 23rd at 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific for "There's no I in team." Now without further ado here's Shonda and Betsy.

Hi. I'm Shonda. I'm Betsy. This is Grey's Anatomy.


BETSY BEERS: Well you now I'm just going to give a little whether report here in California right now because it's frickin' dry. There have been fires. It's been really weird. And of course there are fires always in this part of southern California
SHONDA RHIMES: And Santa Ana winds are blowing which makes the fires worse.
BETSY BEERS: So I sound a little stuffy. So if I sound a little bit stuffy, it's not because I'm stuffy, it's just because I am actually
SHONDA RHIMES: It's the weather
BETSY BEERS: It's the weather
SHONDA RHIMES: Blame is on the weather.
BETSY BEERS: We do blame is on the weather. We blame the dryness of the weather and the dryness by the way you need to moisturize. Which reminds me everyone needs to vote
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes. Moisturizing does lead to voting
BETSY BEERS: It does. Once you moisturize. On your way to the voting booth moisturize
SHONDA RHIMES: Moisturize
BETSY BEERS: Moisturize because if it's anything like in southern California you are going to want to be moisturized and you are going to want to vote
SHONDA RHIMES: And let me remind you, your vote matters
BETSY BEERS: More and more and more importantly it matters. So don't listen to the polls. Just vote because you want to vote
SHONDA RHIMES: Vote your conscience.
BETSY BEERS: Vote your conscience. Vote also with your hands.
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes
BETSY BEERS: Use your hands to
SHONDA RHIMES: And don't forget to look for cute boys when you are voting
BETSY BEERS: That's right.
SHONDA RHIMES: Or girls.
BETSY BEERS: Because remember, voting booths, great way to meet people
SHONDA RHIMES: They vote. They're citizens.
BETSY BEERS: I think hot people vote.
SHONDA RHIMES: Yeah. Many hot people vote.
BETSY BEERS: Many hot people vote
SHONDA RHIMES: The polls are just a plethora of just hot people
BETSY BEERS: It's absolutely true. And you know the great thing about the polls is, it's like jury duty. It's like the melting pot of life. Because you get to meet lots of different people. And I've met great people in jury duty and at the polls.
SHONDA RHIMES: But less stinky than jury duty and also not all day.
BETSY BEERS: And by the way the room for jury duty not so much on the room.
SHONDA RHIMES: Voting's quick
BETSY BEERS: Voting's fast
SHONDA RHIMES: It takes 15 minutes. Maybe five.
BETSY BEERS: And you get that little sticker. So let's say you voted, you got your coffee, you are standing in line and there's that person with the little sticker. You can say hay you voted
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes. You need to take democracy seriously. Isn't that what you want in a partner?
BETSY BEERS: You no I think
SHONDA RHIMES: People who vote are often good at sex
BETSY BEERS: So remember. Voting equals good sex
SHONDA RHIMES: Exactly. And that is our message for today
BETSY BEERS: That's our message for today
SHONDA RHIMES: I don't really think we need to say anything else
BETSY BEERS: I don't either because I think actually since we've given this message probably any questions anybody has about "Brave New World" might just be
SHONDA RHIMES: Superfluous
BETSY BEERS: You know say they were be superfluous accept for this actual episode has one of my favorite things in the history of the food chain of life
SHONDA RHIMES: Mine too
BETSY BEERS: Of all the history of television from Jack Parr on
SHONDA RHIMES: I'm actually really proud of what were able to do here
BETSY BEERS: I'm also going to tell you a story about the furniture in the dermatology wing.
SHONDA RHIMES: Uh-huh.
BETSY BEERS: I think we are talking about dermatology
SHONDA RHIMES: I was talking about another piece
BETSY BEERS: Were you really?
SHONDA RHIMES: But let's talk about dermatology
BETSY BEERS: Okay. See. Mine was dermatology. Because I. It's like we both clearly have great things which means this could go on for six hours
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes. Dermatology started because in the writer’s room I was saying you know we always make jokes in the writer’s room about dermatology as sort of being a surgical specialty that's not really surgical. And it's not true. Dermatologists do great things as evidence by my dermatologist. Dermatologists do great things and we love them.
BETSY BEERS: They check moles
SHONDA RHIMES: But I really believe that someone like Cristina or Meredith or hard core people would find dermatology to be interesting because it's also the highest specialty gone into by women who want to have families, who want to have a life because the hours aren't crazy. So you step through the doors you know from the our guys side in dermatology and it's a whole other world
BETSY BEERS: Well I also just love the idea that okay the world at Seattle Grace is this world that we know. We know the hospital, blah, blah, blah and then one day you open the door and this whole other wing we didn't know anything about
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes
BETSY BEERS: And the wing is the anti OR. It's the gore fest of Seattle Grace that we know of operations. It's just people drinking water with berries in it and getting hand massages
SHONDA RHIMES: And getting hand massages, yeah.
BETSY BEERS: Which is such a funny kind of flip side reality that you actually created an alternate reality of Seattle Grace within Seattle Grace
SHONDA RHIMES: Which was our whole point
BETSY BEERS: Which is hysterical.
SHONDA RHIMES: On the other side of that door there's a world in which people don't work all the time and they get too much sleep and they share and chat and laugh
BETSY BEERS: And I think just so um our listening audience knows. I think we both became sort of obsessed with the furniture in dermatology
SHONDA RHIMES: I became so obsessed with the furniture in dermatology that I redecorated my entire office
BETSY BEERS: She did. To look like dermatology
SHONDA RHIMES: A little bit to look like dermatology
BETSY BEERS: It's a little bit brighter, a little more colorful, a little more Shondaesque I would say, but
SHONDA RHIMES: So my office is now dermatology
BETSY BEERS: Could I say it's Zen? It's relaxing. I have a little more zest for lemon in my water when I'm sitting in there
SHONDA RHIMES: People enjoy coming in there now. Before it was kind of a dark cave
BETSY BEERS: It was kind of a dark cave. It was kind of a sadder more intense place
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes
BETSY BEERS: Where you went for intensity and now you kind of go for relaxation
SHONDA RHIMES: And you know the sofa that they are all sitting on in dermatology, I have that sofa now
BETSY BEERS: She has that sofa
SHONDA RHIMES: Not the exact same sofa
BETSY BEERS: Not the same sofa
SHONDA RHIMES: Because maybe we will go back to dermatology one day
BETSY BEERS: You never know. I'm hoping we go back to dermatology because it's one of my favorite places
SHONDA RHIMES: Because Dr. Daisy Patman must be known more.
BETSY BEERS: Okay, and by the way, who's named Dr. Daisy Patman?
SHONDA RHIMES: I love the name Dr. Daisy Patman
BETSY BEERS: The best name ever
SHONDA RHIMES: And she's so cheerful and pretty and happy
BETSY BEERS: She's fabulous
SHONDA RHIMES: Perfect skin
BETSY BEERS: She's fabulous. And I'll have to say the dermatology office is a little bit like my dermatology office when I go in. Then Dr. Ellen Rosenbach, he and his little perky people give you potions and they tell jokes
SHONDA RHIMES: Shut up
BETSY BEERS: Very nice man. We'll check your moles and we will do some electrolysis I'm sure if you are interested. Not that I am. But I think
SHONDA RHIMES: That's personal
BETSY BEERS: That's personal
SHONDA RHIMES: My personal favorite thing in the episode
BETSY BEERS: I know what this is
SHONDA RHIMES: Is Bailey and Callie
BETSY BEERS: You know what, and you know what as soon as you said my favorite thing in the episode I knew what you were talking about because this is if there's anything that is ultimately Bailey
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes
BETSY BEERS: It's the desire need to talk in metaphor
SHONDA RHIMES: And we were so proud of it because we really wanted to have a way to discuss the issue that they're discussing which ask the undiscovered country that is the vajayjay. In a way that felt like you could discuss it on a network TV and be still kind of openly but have it be funny and also helpful to Callie who's not sure what she's doing down there
BETSY BEERS: Well and then you gave it to Bailey and because this is the only way that Bailey could discuss it because Bailey could never discuss anything like this
SHONDA RHIMES: Well that is my favorite thing. Bailey would never talk about sex to anybody for any reason at any time. And what I loved is that we sort of layered it in so that if you think or you would assume that Bailey's staring at her that way because she disproves of two women being together or you know she can't handle that part of it. But that's not it. Bailey's just Bailey. She doesn't care who you are having sex with. She just doesn't want to talk about it ever. But clearly Callie needs it. And when she sees the way Erica's looking at Callie she realizes that poor Erica might need it too
BETSY BEERS: Everyone needs some help
SHONDA RHIMES: Everyone needs a little love.
BETSY BEERS: And it's the conversation of that
SHONDA RHIMES: Spongy red. Yes
BETSY BEERS: Which I'm sorry that she brings that up and it's so
SHONDA RHIMES: My favorite thing simply is just watching Chandra Wilson giving that speech
BETSY BEERS: With that sort of enthusiasm
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes. That moment before she starts to speak when she's trying to figure out what words to use and then what I love is her little satisfied with herself nod before she walks out of the room. Like okay I did that good. Good for me. And then she leaves Callie sort of like I don't even know what that means
BETSY BEERS: Well and I also feel like Bailey's coming from a more confident place emotionally at this point because she's made a choice that she's working on things with tuck and you know she's back in her family so she's back being that weirdly stable source of all wisdom
SHONDA RHIMES: She's always been our anchor. She's the only one in a stable relationship. You know what I mean she's our anchor
BETSY BEERS: Yeah. She always is. So it's nice to see her back dispelling wisdom as only Bailey can, which is, and also to me it's a big sign of her love for Callie. Like she's always
SHONDA RHIMES: And for lesbians everywhere
BETSY BEERS: For lesbians everywhere, but specifically that she takes the time with Callie really speaks to the past of the relationship
SHONDA RHIMES: To explain
BETSY BEERS: Which I think is just a beautiful thing because I'm not sure she would go to all those lengths with everybody. With the man whore
SHONDA RHIMES: Yeah that's very true. She certainly wouldn't go those lengths with Sloan
BETSY BEERS: Which I think down the line we might see. She's not quite as patient with Sloan. Let's put it that way
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes
BETSY BEERS: I think also Izzy and Alex are sort of an interesting point in time because this relationship is really getting tense and
SHONDA RHIMES: He's being fairly abusive and I love that she smacks him in the back of the head with a roll of tape because the man, he's acting out all of his aggressions on her
BETSY BEERS: Yep
SHONDA RHIMES: And I love that he says you know that she's the only person he can be pissed at, which is true. She's the only one left. He can't be pissed at a crazy girl because she’s crazy. He can't be pissed at anybody else because in a weird way you can only be that angry at your closest friends and
BETSY BEERS: Uh-huh.
SHONDA RHIMES: And she's his closest friend so he can be freely mean and abusive to her because in a weird way there's the safety of knowing that she's going to be there which I like
BETSY BEERS: And I think that's absolutely true
SHONDA RHIMES: And where this goes it's really good too so
BETSY BEERS: Trust us it's really really really good
SHONDA RHIMES: Yeah. You are going to want to keep watching this one
BETSY BEERS: This is not the end of the turn pike
SHONDA RHIMES: This is not your typical story of romance
BETSY BEERS: Not in any way shape for form
SHONDA RHIMES: We'll talk about it again in a couple episodes if you know what I mean
BETSY BEERS: Yeah and I think you'll all be saying the same thing which is holy moly
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes
BETSY BEERS: Clearly I think there's a little window open for them to get closer because he sort of admitted where his brain is
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes. There's a window. The other thing that happens is that George finally, finally, finally passes his intern exam and
BETSY BEERS: Thank God
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes. And be a resident and we made him suffer for quite a long time
BETSY BEERS: We did
SHONDA RHIMES: But now his full fledge little resident wings and he can fly which is lovely. I love the moment where he walks off and leaves Lexi behind kind of forgetting about her
BETSY BEERS: Yeah
SHONDA RHIMES: Because she loves him so deeply
BETSY BEERS: I think Gorge is in a very self protective, self contained place right now
SHONDA RHIMES: Yeah I think he lays been fully focused on getting to where he needs to go so much to me that's why he has never noticed that Lexi has feelings for him. He has been so focused on getting where he needs to go that he's not looking around to see anybody else.
BETSY BEERS: And he barely has any emotional space given the relationships he's had for the past little bit. I mean he got married in Vegas after his father died. He then flipped right into a relationship with Izzy. He's in no position
SHONDA RHIMES: He should not be dating
BETSY BEERS: He should not be dating
SHONDA RHIMES: There are some times where people should just be alone with themselves to pull it together
BETSY BEERS: I think that's true
SHONDA RHIMES: This is one of those times for George
BETSY BEERS: I think so too. I think sometimes you just got to get to know yourself again and that seems like that would be good for him
SHONDA RHIMES: Maybe later when he goes to vote he might meet somebody
BETSY BEERS: That's true and maybe later when he goes to vote he deserves to meet somebody.
SHONDA RHIMES: Exactly because he voted
BETSY BEERS: And that would have and maybe it's should be somebody they meet very slowly progresses slowly
SHONDA RHIMES: Maybe you see them up for a series of elections and then perhaps you speak
BETSY BEERS: It could be an ongoing meet situation which isn't rapid and has respect for George's need for a little bit of distance
SHONDA RHIMES: While voters often provide good sex, voting slowly and over time could lead to love
BETSY BEERS: It does. It think that. You know. I think there's a whole political treaties clearly which could be coming out of this which is how to make voting more appealing
SHONDA RHIMES: We should write a book. We should write a book. Voting is sexy.
BETSY BEERS: The average person voting is sexy. And Meredith you know with Meredith and Derek I think Derek seems to be really trying desperately to make a home for himself
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes. Yes, he is
BETSY BEERS: The casa of fun
SHONDA RHIMES: Boy is he trying.
BETSY BEERS: It's kind of rough, rough riding there. It's not much space in that place
SHONDA RHIMES: There's a lot of people living there
BETSY BEERS: There's a lot of people living there and apparently not only are there a lot of people but the ghost the Ellis seems to be living there more and more frequently
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes. The diaries
BETSY BEERS: I think everywhere you turn
SHONDA RHIMES: We felt very strongly about these diaries and the idea that the diary would be a window into Meredith's mother but also a window into surgery as it used to be. Which was interesting to us. Um, those diaries are obviously going to hold a lot of meaning and we are going to find some stuff in there later but for right now they're Meredith's connections with her mother who is dead and I don't know why I said this if nobody new but Meredith's connection with her mother
BETSY BEERS: Just fort the record, Meredith's mother is dead. Just to recap Dylan the bomb guy's dead, Denny's dead. People are dead.
SHONDA RHIMES: But just to connect, and also to connect our residents with the struggles of residents from years past. I love the idea. I mean I always joke that I always wanted to do a show that was about 25 years ago when Ellis and Richard were interns and residents. And this is sort of
BETSY BEERS: For the hairdos alone
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes. For the hairdos alone. For the fro. For the fro on the chief alone
BETSY BEERS: We're so so anxious to see that
SHONDA RHIMES: And the members only jackets and the leg warmers.
BETSY BEERS: Little tiny bit of shoulder pad. That would be good
SHONDA RHIMES: Yeah and like the Madonna like ripped clothing. Flashdance.
BETSY BEERS: I think it's pretty, pretty safe for me to say that flashback episode is clearly just barking at the gates here
SHONDA RHIMES: I wanted to do it for so long and everyone just stares at me when I say I want to do it
BETSY BEERS: She actually, I can testify that pretty much from like episode six of the show on you've been saying flash back.
SHONDA RHIMES: Flash back episode. It's the 70s.
BETSY BEERS: And we got a little confused about time frame because for the while it was the 60s which was would mean Meredith was 45
SHONDA RHIMES: 45 yeah.
BETSY BEERS: Which is crazy
SHONDA RHIMES: Literally it was like the early 80s. I think it's like 82 is what it is
BETSY BEERS: And the music in 82 was great
SHONDA RHIMES: Yeah. The music in 82 was great
BETSY BEERS: And MTV came on the air in 81
SHONDA RHIMES: And we got a little bit of it when we had Meredith have the memory of being on the carousel with her mother and you can't really tell but Richard's wearing a members only jacket which made me happier than anything in the history of man
BETSY BEERS: He is. And he had like Ellis had a really nice pretty long hairdo
SHONDA RHIMES: It was very Joan Baez
BETSY BEERS: Kind of nice. So that's something to look forward to in the future.
SHONDA RHIMES: Exactly
BETSY BEERS: Next week's going to be really good
SHONDA RHIMES: Next week’s episode is called "There is No I in Team."
BETSY BEERS: "No I in Team"
SHONDA RHIMES: Um, written by Jenna Bans
BETSY BEERS: There's no I in vote.
SHONDA RHIMES: There's no I in vote
BETSY BEERS: But that doesn't mean you shouldn't vote
SHONDA RHIMES: That means everybody should vote. I'm confused now. Anyway, it's a really great episode. We're really excited about it
BETSY BEERS: This is Jenna Bans' first episode
SHONDA RHIMES: It's Jenna Bans’ first episode here. She is very nervous. But she did a very good job
BETSY BEERS: Jenna rocks
SHONDA RHIMES: It's got some really great stuff in it. So I wish I could tell you about it, but as you know we don't do that
BETSY BEERS: We don't do that. We don't actually do that
SHONDA RHIMES: You earth watch or you don't
BETSY BEERS: By the way the DVR wonderful tool.
SHONDA RHIMES: Wonderful tool
BETSY BEERS: If maybe you are out on a date a pre vote date and you come back and you DVR'd that's okay
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes. Yes
BETSY BEERS: But we love it when you watch it in real time. That's our favorite thing because then you can tune into us the next morning and we can ramble on about what you just saw and you won't have to wait. The immediacy is great
SHONDA RHIMES: Also, condition your hair during the commercial
BETSY BEERS: In preparation for voting
SHONDA RHIMES: Yes. Don't go to the polls looking bad
BETSY BEERS: Yeah. Don't look like I do when I walk the dog. That's my biggest advice
SHONDA RHIMES: You have got to be attractive when you go to the polls because of all the attractive people who are going to be there
BETSY BEERS: Well I think this pretty much wraps up this big lump of
SHONDA RHIMES: I mean we've said so much
BETSY BEERS: Yet, not so much actually
SHONDA RHIMES: Not so much, but so much
BETSY BEERS: Lots of quantity, hope the quality is in there someplace. If you pick through it maybe there's a diamond
SHONDA RHIMES: This is Shonda
BETSY BEERS: This is Betsy
SHONDA RHIMES AND BETSY BEERS: This is Grey's Anatomy.



Join us again next week for the deconstruction of the next episode "There's No I in Team." And perhaps more reasons why voting is sexy. "There's No I in Team," airs Thursday, October 23rd at 9:00 p.m. on ABC and as always is available the next day at ABC.com. Don't forget to tune in for Ugly Betty at 8:00 p.m. Stay for Grey's at 8:00 and then watch ABC's newest hit drama Life on Mars at 10:00. Thursdays on ABC are ugly and grey on Mars.

Edited by oncetherewasaway, Oct 20 2008, 07:51 PM.
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