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oncetherewasaway	Sep 21 2008, 12:52 AM
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	PODCAST PODCAST 10/10/08 HERE COMES THE FLOOD S: Hi B: Hi S: I’m Shonda B: I’m Betsy S & B: This is Grey’s Anatomy! B: We’re back! OT talk about the Presidential debate and voting S: Maybe we should talk about the episode B: I think the name of this episode, unlike a lot of our episodes says something very obvious about the episode. S: It’s called ‘Here Comes the Flood’ B: Which kind of tells us.... S: Signifies that maybe there was some kind of flood! B: A little bit of water, little bit of leaking.... S: a bit.... B: ...little drip.... S:....a dribble.... B: little deluge. I have to say, one of my favourite scenes in the history of the show is when the ceiling collapses on the body cavity. S: Yes, I pretty much love when the ceiling collapses into the open body cavity too because it’s pretty good. B:It’s good. It’s that slow, horror movie build...... S: It’s the drip, drip, drip. S: Bailey yelling move the patient.... point yet and you’re kinda going “what’s the deal? It’s ok, it’s ok” and then the whole ceiling collapses and it’s the doctors’ reactions. S: Yes, B:... and the best thing that comes out of this is because the ceiling collapsed...... S: the guy gets to live because they found his pancreatic tumour cancer at stage one and you never find it at stage one. B: Which is an incredible thing and gives Alex..... S: ....something to think about, B: .....a little bit of hope for a change because.... B: Absolutely S: See the girl and say “hello”, and he comes home at the end of the day and he sees the girl and he says “hello”. B: That was good. B: and it’s also just that the connection to me between Alex and this poor put upon patient. He’s the unluckiest man in the world. S: I love that patient. He’s so heartbreaking and just miserable. His whole world just falls apart all the time. B: Didn’t you guys call him Job? S: Yeah, we called him Job for a long time.... B: He was Job originally because he was the guy on which burden, after burden, after burden was continually placed... S: Yes, B: ...and he took it, and it’s just, it’s an amazingly, he’s a wonderful, wonderful actor and it’s a funny storyline and it’s also an incredibly upsetting storyline.... S:...and he was really funny doing the thing too, like he just, he really went for it, he sorta stayed in character in between takes and he really enjoyed himself, but he really, he was great. He was a wonderful guy. B: Yeah and it was just, it was a wonderful dynamic to see. Actually I don’t think we have ever really seen a patient like that before, it was great. S: That miserable? Not so much. No it’s good. B: Exactly..... S: ....and then we had our pain guy played by Daniel J Travanti.... B:....who I first watched on Hill Street Blues S: Yes. B: Who is a phenomenal guy, and we tried to get him for a long time..... S: ....yeah, and he was amazing in this role, B: he was great and...... S: ...he gives that heartbreaking speech about never ever ever feeling pain and being able to feel the pain of his wife’s death because he was in so much pain himself all the time. I just, I found him beautiful. B: Absolutely...... S: ....and he was very elegant and lovely and came and did us a favour. B: So it’s like these two patients in this episode both who endure different types of pain and so elegantly and so gracefully in a strange way. It’s that wonderful thing of first of all lexipaedia comes in.... S: Yes, B: Incredibly handily at this stage.... S: We were very proud of lexipaedia, we were very proud of that. B: She actually, very, very ,very smartly remembers something from George’s study and comes up with this whole thing that maybe the problem that this patient is having is maybe not as complicated as we think it is, which is, I think an amazing moment and is that great dynamic, too, between Cris and Lexie which is totally terrific. S: Which I love. B: Exactly. B: And this weird funny thing going on with Dr. Sloan. S: Yes, poor Dr. Sloan. B: Poor Sloan. Sloan’s kind of.......left in the wilderness. S: I think he kinda might be a little bit confused right now. B: He feels that way to me, he actually feels that way to me. I don’t think he’s got his sure footing. S: I think something’s coming! B: I think maybe it is, I think maybe down the line a little something, a little something, something..... S: Yeah. B: No absolutely. S: I think when Krista Vernoff came to me and said I wanna write an episode about a flood I was like “dude, we just had an ice storm, it’s gonna feel crazy like, let’s not do it”. B: It’s like the plagues you know, it’s like, where is the ....where’s that cattle disease? S: But she felt really strongly about it and we talked a lot about how a) a big ice storm could in fact lead to a flood, like scientifically and cool.gif...... B: (laughing).....scientifically.... S: I generally don’t care about the scientific part of it but....scientifically it could really happen and she had really good ideas and thoughts about what the flood could mean metaphorically for the hospital which has now had it’s ranking fall to number 12 and the Chief being put upon and what really got me was her pitch on the interaction between Bailey and the Chief about the flood. How Bailey keeps coming to the Chief and saying “ don’t you think it’s time to shut it down, don’t you think it’s time to call it?” and the Chief being absolutely unable to do so until Bailey comes to him to tell him that the ceiling has fallen on the patient in the OR. Which I love., and the poor man just being done because as we’ve said he is just as competitive as the interns. B: He is, I think that in the last two episodes and in this episode it comes out incredibly fully how difficult it is to be the boss in this situation and how difficult it is to be the boss when you are still also a surgeon. S: Yes. B: You know all that competition you see, he’s not an administrator, he’s really a surgeon, he’s really still a surgeon. He thinks like a surgeon so there’s a battle going on in his brain all the time.... S: and how much he hates being number 12. B: He hates it. S: which I think is underneath all of it. B: I also think, I love both the fact that it’s literally a biblical episode. S: Yes. B: There’s a flood, there’s Job, S: Yeah, B: There’s a man who experiences total amounts of pain, there are acts of pure generosity. I mean it’s biblical but it’s also, there also seems to me to be part trios of the first and second. I mean it is connected by the fact that the water keeps dripping and it’s the flip side for the Chief because the Chief goes through episode one and two and you get through three and the last act of this guy is this act of pure and lovely generosity. S: Yes, which I think is lovely. B: It’s absolutely gorgeous. S: That’s one of my favourite moments of the script... B: Me too.... S: is when he says, you know, O’Malley and he lets him take the test which is great. B: And they’re sitting together and there’s that last moment that always actually really chokes me up because through all of this you’ve seen the Chief actually be irritated, angry, irate, impatient.....a little bit of a baby.... S: ....a little bit of a baby.... B: a little bit of a baby sometimes and it’s this weird open act of love and generosity... S: ...he becomes an adult. B: The Chief again. S: Yeah, he becomes the Chief. B: So it’s sort of this transformation for him throughout these three episodes that I just think is phenomenal to watch. S: And speaking of biblical, Izzie basically wanders in the dessert for forty years in this episode... B: Totally. S: Looking for someone to live with her for Gods sakes. Just live with her... B: She’s out on the street in two skis and a lunchbox at this point. S: I loved the idea that Derek at this point basically not only assumes that Meredith’s gonna move her roommates out but tells them that they are going to be moved out. B: Well not only that and then basically bribes Cris into agreeing with him. S: Because he knows that Cris is where the money is really. B: Absolutely. S: If you want something done you gotta get Cris, ( for Meredith) you gotta get Cris to help you. So, but I thought that Izzie was sorta terribly heart breaking, sort of going around trying to get someone to be her roommate. B: Someone to be her roommate and then..... S: ...and then Cris who she goes to and frankly it is Izzies’ fault she did not say that she wanted her to “live with me” B: She was just literal, she wasn’t literal..... S: .....show’s her the apartment and Cris swoops in and steals it from her. B: Which is just the most egregiously horrible thing you could do but Cris doesn’t think it is..... S: It’s something I would do......B&S laugh....She would come to me with this flyer and I would be like, look an apartment and I would move into it and I wouldn’t understand that what she was saying was do you wanna live with me. I think you have to be literal. That’s the little bit of me that’s like Cris. B: There you go. You know I think that makes sense but I also just sorta felt like Cris really wants out of Burkes old apartment...just.... S: ....that’s bad mojo..... B: I mean it’s just gotten worse ever since Burke won the Harper Avery and the whole..... S: ...yeah and she’s gotten her groove back and she needs a new place. So wait till you guys see the new place, by the way! B: Ohhhh, the new place is awesome. S: I kinda wanna live there and would if there was running water and it wasn’t a fake set. Just demand running water and a fake toilet a set apartment and try live there. B: There are people who do that, well do you know what? I bet you could get running water, you could talk to people...... S: I’m pretty sure Bossy McBossy Rob Corn would have something to say about that. B: Rob Corn Bossy McBossy, I think he might shut it down..... S: I could move in there with my daughter onto the set....... B: I must say the thought has occurred to me when I’ve been in Meredith’s house..... S: ....because they just have the best places to live! B: By the way the kitchen, just for the record, that set kitchen is like three times the size of my kitchen at home.... S: It’s three times the size of my kitchen...... B: ....and we know I live in a postage stamp regardless. S: I don’t live in a postage stamp. B: You don’t actually, you live in a very spacious, lovely home. S: But still, way better, the kitchen Meredith Grey has.... B: ....but Meredith Grey’s bedroom! Seen a lot of action as we know, but that’s not the point. Meredith Grey’s bedroom also really, really nice. S: Yes, I like her bathroom, the one that she and Derek take baths in not the scary George one. (Some further silly talk about bathrooms) B: Back to the episode. There other thing that I kinda, like look at is George and Lexie Grey now..... S: ....she loves him.... B: .....she just loves him in a sniff hair, soapy smell, I’m just kinda dreaming sort of way. S: She loves him in the way Lexie lives, though,do you know what I mean? B: Like pure, over eager Bambi, like..... S: ...a puppy... B: I’ll kill something for you and bring it to you. It’s like a cat. S: She brings you a dead mouse. B: Yeah, a dead mouse. It’s sorta sitting there really eagerly, sort of hoping against hope y you’ll appreciate it. S: I mean, the girl stole files for him last year. She’s a little bit of a wild card, she’s a loose cannon. B: She didn’t just steal files, she stole pictures from them walls of the hospital. S: She stole from the hospital..... B: She’s a kleptomaniac, you know what she is? She just wants things to be nice and she gets things the way she needs to..... S: She’s a little bit of a loose cannon is I’m saying. I’m warning you people now she’s a tiny bit of a loose cannon. B: Which I think we are going to find out is incredibly entertaining to watch and also she’s got real depth, this girl. S: I love her. I love how she is all heart basically, she’s all heart... B: Oh absolutely and the most loyal person ever..... S: ....completely without common sense..... B: ...that’s absolutely true. And also, what I think is amazing to me is that George is so oblivious, like all George is caring about is his test. S: George is very focused on his career because the last time he got caught up with a girl he failed his exam. B: It’s true. S: He’s not even thinking about it right now. B: ...and the time before , that was a strange reaction to his Dad’s passing. So I think that there’s a slippery relationship history with George. But I also sort of feel like you would have to be blind, deaf and dumb not to see, I mean the girl’s sniffing his hair! S: He doesn’t notice her sniffing. B: I get that but I would still think that, you know, if you had any awareness, with the exception of the test thing..... S: .....different people....same problem......write a paper about it! B: Thank God you are here to clarify that for us because that would have been just totally confusing. S: I’m so sorry. S: Now, talk about Meredith and her therapy. B: I was just about to say because that is actually one of my favourite topics. S: Meredith breaks up with her therapist, which I love. First of all I love Dr Wyatt...uhmm... Amy Madigan is one of my favourites. B: Awesome! S: But I love that Meredith shows up and is basically like “Derek’s moved in, I’m healed” which is crazy because..... B: ...it is.... S: ....you know, kitchen floor, pool of blood.... B: ....Yeah, kind of history, long, long, scary, weird history.... S: ....drama.... B: ....of mum and strange stuff.... S: ...body cavity bomb.... B: ...possibly death wishes and all that kind of stuff... S: ...yeah.... B: ....and you know what? Also kind of therapy usually takes a little while. There was always that thing of however long it took you to get screwed up it may take that long to fix. Which, gosh, I hope not..... S: ....with Meredith I hope not..... B: ....because we’ll be gumming our food in our nineties and she’ll be still going to therapy! S: But I love the optimism involved in sort of saying I’m done and I love Meredith’s patients who you know, is this lovely, lovely girl who is dying and really believes that her cancer is going to be cured and Meredith ends up going to Wyatt and saying like what is the point of being happy when people are dying and nothing can be solved. What is the point of being happy and I love that Wyatt said that it’s, basically, being happy is not the point, being able to deal with being unhappy is the point, basically. So for me, I thought it was a very valuable lesson for Meredith. B: I think it’s an amazing......because that’s the truth it’s, what’s the point? S: I mean she is able to go home and yell at her boyfriend when generally she would be drinking Tequila and breaking up with him already. B: Well, and she would immediately assume, and she does already, if she actually says how she really feels he’ll break up with her because the fact is that was the way she was raised, was every single time she actually showed a real emotion she was shot down. S: Poor thing, poor Meredith. B: I know, this is the thing I wanna say about Meredith. People say to me occasionally, they say, wow, I don’t understand why Meredith just can’t get over it, you know, why can’t she just get over it? There’s this happy, handsome guy with great hair and what’s the issue? And it’s....just think about it for a second, think about what the woman lived through and think about the way she was raised and how amazingly functional she is and how well she takes care of other people. I’m always amazed. S: You know, think about what it took for that girl to stand in the middle of that field and build a house of candles. B: Oh, don’t get me started on that! I mean....hello?.....stop. The candles alone, the hauling that crap out there..... S: ...the candles.....yes..... B: ...going to the store and getting all the candles, renting the truck for the candles. S: I’m surprised her head didn’t explode because it was too much... B: ...it was a lot.... S: ...and Cris has already told her that it won’t work.... B: ...yeah, and she took it back but, by the way, she didn’t really take it back because now it’s under there some place but Cristina has her own reasons, you know.... S: ....yeah,I love that Christina shows up in that office and tells her that you have to tell her that she can’t move in with Derek and it’s a big mistake.... B: I do too.... S: I love that.... B: ...and then what Wyatt says which is essentially it must be lonely for you..... S: ....losing Meredith to Derek, and I love, I just love that Cristina says, you know, we’re just re-enacting the show at this point because we love this part! We love that she says, you’re a terrible shrink because it’s true as far as Cristina is concerned she’s a terrible shrink and of course we all know it’s the truth exactly but not from Cristina’s perspective. B: But I also love that we’re continuing here that whole idea that Cristina and Meredith are the key, core relationship. S: Meredith and Cristina are the love story of this show they have been since the beginning... B: ....and can they continue to be because you don’t really get to see TV. shows a lot about friends. S: The show for me has always been about best friends. B: We totally agree on that, that was the issue, two people are actually, no matter what they do, are loyal to each other and can’t be separated. S: Boys come and go, your friends stay around! Shall we talk about the next episode? B: What’s it called? S: It’s called “Brave New World” B: Well okay so it’s not actually literally about a brave new world this time so we’re ok... S: We’re not actually growing a whole new world in the hospital. B: Just to make sure everybody understands that we are not now going to the literal title school. That would be problematic. S: No, there’s some interesting stuff that happens in this episode.....uhm B: ....things happen..... S: ...yeah, things happen that are interesting and amazing. B: Characters will do things..... S: ...wait till you see what Bailey does! B: ...oh, it’s gonna be unbelievable! S: Oh my God! B: And also Meredith and Derek..... S: Shocker! B: Really, really worth while watching.... S: Shocker! B: Shocker! S: Shocker! B: Incredibly shocking! S: Actually I don’t think it’s shocking! B: I don’t it is either but....so you know we’re just making up. S: We can’t tell you anything. B: We do this every single week. S: If you watch it you’ll hear us discuss it later. B: You know people say to us why don’t you tease the episode and then we always end up saying things like exciting and shocking. S: I know, it’s sad. I really don’t what to tell you. B: Except please watch it. S: There are patients and surgeries.... B: ..... and it stars the hospital and I think as of next week they may still be number twelve... S: ......they’re still number twelve. B: ....ok so I think we can still count on that, the ratings haven’t changed S: Proudly wearing the badge number twelve. B: I think that’s exactly the case. So, uhm, that kinda wraps it up for us. S: We have to vote but not right now because it isn’t voting time yet. B: We should practice, that’s all I’m saying. S: Practice and register, register and practice. B: Absolutely, so this is Betsy.... S: ...and this is Shonda.... B&S ....and this is Greys Anatomy! ksd2000 / Kelly Posted: Oct 14 2008, 03:07 AM Edited by oncetherewasaway, Oct 20 2008, 03:54 PM.


5.03 Here Comes the Flood · Episodic Chat