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S3 PODCASTS; Episodes 1 thru 25
Topic Started: Mar 11 2007, 04:59 PM (1,092 Views)
flipflopmom	Mar 11 2007, 04:59 PM Post #1
McFlip Posts: 204 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #27 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast " Didn't We Almost Have It All? " 325 [/size]05.18.07 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers recap the season finale "Didn't We Almost Have It All" (5/17/07). Burke runs out on Cristina, Meredith has a choice to make, and there is a new Grey in town. We’ll have analysis on all that and more in today’s official Grey’s Anatomy podcast, hosted by ABC. Wedding bells were ringing last night on Grey’s Anatomy. Unfortunately, the only person walking down the aisle was Burke, and he was going in the wrong direction. And that’s just the beginning of the shockers in last night’s episode. Probably the biggest one of all, the arrival of Meredith’s younger half-sister as an incoming intern. To get a good look at mini-Mer, aka Lexie, or to relive any of last night’s twists and turns, just go to abc.com. Now though, we turn it over one last time to executive producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers, for our exclusive post-finale wrap-up. Hi, this is Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. We have reached the end of the season! We will be taking a bit of a break, but before we do that, we are really excited to talk to you about the last episode of the season. This was a huge episode in a lot of ways. We had all of our actors, we had the church, we had wedding dresses to pick out…..I really have to say, really one of my favorite moments of all time on this show was Burke’s vows. Yeah, for me too. I mean, that moment in surgery where he, first of all tries his vows out, which is the most beautiful, vulnerable thing you could ever do, with that little scrub cap and mask….The only way…I really wanted you guys to hear what Burke’s vows would have been, and the only way I could figure out how to do that, the only way he would tell his vows to someone else was under the cover and the protection of surgery. Something about sewing, and cutting, and doing all the stuff that he does in surgery, it sort of lends him a protective shell and privacy that allowed him to be really intimate, which I thought was really wonderful. And this incredible moment when Addison says "I think I speak for all of us when I say dump Yang. Dump Yang, and marry me." What is also great is that he, I don’t know why it struck me the last time I saw it, but he has memorized these vows, he is so proud of these vows, he has worked really hard on them, he has to say them with the words Cristina Yang and the whole ….and Cristina Yang washes hers, off her hand…you know, that the contrast between the two sets of vows ……she has barely written her vows, she has come up with something Izzie said. What I always thought was really telling for me was that at the beginning of the episode Cristina gives this whole speech about the heart, the heart is an organ, it pumps blood, it doesn't speak, it doesn’t have tiny little lips…..which all about the heart is this very unemotional thing. And then Burke says his vows, and he says ‘I am a heart man. I lay my heart in the palm of your hands.’ Like, the heart is this incredibly emotional thing, and they are at complete cross-purposes with each other. And I always felt, if you were really super crazy, and paying attention, that you would figure out at that moment that this is not going to work. There were hints all along, since 2 or 3 episodes ago that, you know, from the moment she says ‘Whatever happened to city hall?’ Well, I have to say there have been hints, I mean, from the moment he proposed, things were not good since he proposed simply to end their standoff. But yeah, they have been in a tough place, and what I love about this episode is just the…watching Cristina, who is our tough, surgical Cristina Yang at the beginning of the season, and by the end of the season she is standing there in her wedding dress with no eyebrows, and sort of looks like a painted doll. And she has become completely different to the person that we/she thought she was going to be. And I think by trying to make herself do something that she thinks is expected of her because she loves him, she tries to push herself through this incredible transformation which changes who she is. Well, I think it is, you know, some women get caught up in the idea of…you know, she has been shaving off little pieces of her personality all season to accommodate Burke, because she loves him. And it is what her former boyfriend says which is ‘You’re changing. You’re not the woman I knew.’ And I don’t think she realizes it until the moment when Mama takes her eyebrows. And I love the moment when she shows up and she says ‘they took my eyebrows and she called me a Burke.’ And then she is standing there with Bailey, and she says this incredibly emotional, heartfelt speech about why she has to be allowed to cut, because she has no dignity, and she doesn’t feel like herself, and she is realizing that. And I always feel that you think at that moment, maybe she’s not going to go through with this. Well, exactly. And also that feeling of the first time she puts the choker on, which is right before the eyebrows comment, she says ‘I don’t know. First of all it’s tight, and it’s what Burke’s have always worn, but I don’t think it’s me.’ And over and over again she says, in these different ways, for such a long time, I don’t think it’s me, I don’t think it’s me. But it is something we are all raised to believe, on some level…it is the fairytale. Part of this whole thing is the idea of happily ever after. I mean, Meredith talked about it right before she drowned…it’s the idea that they are all supposed to be living happily ever after, they have got the guy, it is the fairytale, it is the myth that we have all been given, and it doesn’t feel like happily ever after. It just feels like life. And in a weird way the only happily ever after is the happily ever after you tailor to yourself, and which comes specifically out of yourself. The hard thing for Cristina is that this wedding didn’t come out of herself. And that is what Meredith is struggling with. I mean, when she says ‘We need this, Cristina, we need you to get your happy ending, and ’the entire episode she has been saying‘ I need you to get married. I need this to happen. You can do this, right? You can do this, you can do this.’ And so, when it doesn’t happen, when Burke makes that long walk down the aisle and comes into the room and it doesn’t happen, for Meredith, that is the end of the fairytale, you don’t get your happy endings, and she kind of gives up when she walks up to the altar and says ‘It’s over. It is so over.’ She is not just talking about the wedding, she is talking about her ideas of happy endings, she’s talking about her and Derek……it’s over. And it is also for her, and with a lot of people, the idea of never having seen a happy relationship, or never having grown up in one, never having had one herself, of never having had any model for one, you look all around yourself, and she was hanging on Cristina’s marriage to work because it would be the first model of somebody doing it, somebody like her that she could identify with, with whom she was close, that she could see as a beacon for a way that it could get done, and when it doesn’t happen, it crushes her. And I love, I mean, I think that in a weird way, what Burke does is this incredibly romantic thing. The only thing he could do when he realized what had happened was to set her free. It is the most romantic….I mean, he could have married her and made her chattel, sure, that would have been fine…for him. But he realized that she was going to become less and less Cristina the more that they were together, so I thought that it was lovely that he lets her go. And it is, in a strange way the most momentous time, but the first time he actually understands and sees her. Yes, it is the first time he really sees her, and that is kind of amazing. I love the walk down the aisle, and you know he says ‘It’s Cristina. She just needs a little push.’ And it is this long, incredibly endless walk where you can see little by little by little him coming to the realization that in a relationship where you always need to give the push, it is not a push, it is a momentously gigantic ton-like shove. Well, and also, he has been saying all along that when he sees Cristina coming down that aisle he is going to know, he is just going to know that everything is right. And suddenly he realizes that he is not seeing Cristina coming down the aisle, he is walking back down the aisle to get her, and he is walking down the aisle to get her once again, which is not the way it is supposed to be. We were really proud of that. Also I think that as a moment, as a purely, not only visual but emotional moment, the idea of Meredith cutting her out of the wedding dress. The season began with Meredith helping Izzie out of the prom dress, and it ends with Meredith helping Cristina out of the wedding dress. And that was really important to me, because it is the whole…Izzie starts off the season sort of realizing that there are no fairytales, there are no happy endings, and it takes the rest of the season for the rest of the women to catch up, in a weird way. I just felt this was so the season in which the women, all of the women, Bailey, Cristina, all of them, realize that there is some sort of myth to the idea that you can have it all. Like, I love the idea that Bailey gets to have this great family life, but she is not where she wants in her career(when she is not named Chief Resident), and Callie gets to be Chief Resident, but her family life is incredibly shaky right now. I think there is something important about that, and interesting, and true. I don’t know anybody who has everything. No, and the expectation that you can is one of the most strangely crippling things…… Even with Bailey over the course of the season the fact that, yeah, she is trying to be a Mother, she is trying to be Chief Resident, she opens the clinic, and she still has to sing her baby to sleep over the phone. Yeah, and for each of them, I think for the men too, it is about getting to a particular point and realizing that your expectation of what you were going to have is not what you thought it be. Absolutely. For all of them. It is the same for the Chief where the Chief did everything right up to a point, yes, he had an obsession with Meredith’s Mom, yes, it affected his relationship, but you watch over the course of this episode, and at the end, the realization that no matter what he does, he still needs to be Chief because he has work to do as the Chief, but he needs to be Chief in a different way, with his wife. He needs to figure out a way to acknowledge both. I love the idea that he is sort of , you know, he has that lovely moment with Adele, and then he is standing there looking out over his hospital and you are not quite sure how he is going to do it, or what he is going to do, but you know that he wants to do it differently. And that is interesting to me. One of my other favorite moments is Derek coming to Meredith and saying, you know, ‘put me out of my misery.’ Which, I don’t know about you, but Patrick Dempsey has the ability to say things like ‘you are the love of my life,’ better than anybody I have ever seen. Yeah, and watching him form the word ‘love.’ It is funny though, because he says ‘you are the love of my life,’ and he asks her to put him out of his misery, because he’s in it, and if she is not in it enough…and one of my favorite things that Ellen Pompeo does is that she stands there for a moment, and then she kind of starts to smile in a panicked way, and says ‘Cristina’s getting married, and I have to go,’ and Derek looks at her and says ‘Meredith,’ and it’s like he is suddenly realizing that she is so supremely damaged that she might not be able to get through this. Like, she really might not make it here, in this relationship. And, you know, you really really think she wants to. She does want to, desperately, she just doesn’t know how. She doesn’t have the skills set, which is why she is looking to Cristina, to see if Cristina can teach her so that she can actually do it, which is why it is so important. Which brings me to Alex, because I have said time and again….and it was no accident that the Alex/Ava scene and the Meredith/Derek scene were right next to each other, I’ve said time and again that Alex and Meredith are nothing more than mirrors of one another. He is the male version of Meredith in a lot of ways. He is just as damaged, he is just as twisty, and when Ava (I mean, how great was Elizabeth Reaser…) asks him to give her a reason to stay, and he can’t, because he thinks that he is not good enough, because he is too damaged, because he doesn’t have it in him, and then Meredith sort of pushes off Derek, you are sort of like, god, these two people, like they are so close, like, Ava is amazing. Well, yeah, and Alex is so close that he sits down with Addison and tries his old garbage, Addison calls him on it, he leaves the church….yes, and that is what I love. Alex actually has the courage to go running back, and obviously too late, Ava is gone, but that is Alex. And that is his safety net, which is, he always shows up too late. That is what keeps him where he is, and in a way I think it is kind of purposeful. I mean, I love that he shows up at the church and starts to hit on Addison again, like, ‘I’ll just find someone to screw,’ basically, that is his attitude. One of the great things that happens at the church is that, other than Alex realizing that he is madly in love with Ava and should run back to her, is that Callie takes a stand for her man. Which is one of my favorite moments ever of Callie’s, because I love that she’s, and I recognize, and I think if you are over the age of 37, you have had it happen to you that one day you psychotically decide you want a baby, and you can’t do anything about it….and I think it is possible that many a woman has felt that way. But what I think is interesting is that I don’t think Callie believes that she is trying to have a baby to save her relationship, which I highly recommend that none of you at home do, because I don’t think that works…bad idea. But I do think that Callie, or anybody, can make themselves believe that they are not having a baby to save their relationship, they are having a baby to take their relationship to the next level. Which is the lie that many people tell themselves. And look, actually, I think that George, when he proposed to Callie, didn’t connect it necessarily with his Dad’s death, but in truth there is a certain amount of denial that goes on with each thing, and pushes you from one thing to the next. Absolutely, and if you look at Callie, and what has been going on from her perspective, everything that George has done, every action that he has taken, even though we as the audience know it’s for the wrong reasons, proposing, standing up to her Father, all those things…to her, all it does is prove to her that George is the man she thought he was. And it makes her love him more, each one of these things he does. Yeah, it is a terrible mistake, but it is an honest one on her part. She believes that George is a better man than he is, and he keeps proving her right in her mind. So, even with the thing that is going on with Izzie, he still chooses to go to Mercy West, he is still doing all the things that she feels are important. And so, when she goes to him and says she wants to have a baby, and she gives that great speech about how she is crazy and a freak, and he should run she was just being honest in the only way she can. But when she gets to the church, and Izzie is asking for George, and wondering where George is, it is like (and I don’t know if I am allowed to say this on the podcast) she peed a little bit on George, she marked her territory. Because not only does she tell Izzie that they are trying to have a baby, but she also says that ‘I was named Chief Resident today.’ So, basically what she is saying is ‘I am, in effect, your boss. And I’m trying to have a baby with my man, whom you want. Whom I’m sending to another hospital.’ She is sort of like, back off, and yes, Callie doesn’t have all the information, she doesn’t know that Izzie’s told George she was in love with him, she doesn’t know that George failed his intern exam, she doesn’t have all of the information, but neither does Izzie. It is kind of amazing….the only person who has as much information as possible is George, who is not talking, which I love. He doesn’t talk really, at all, in this episode. I love the moments at the end for him, because there is that wonderful scene that he has with Bailey where Bailey says ‘Did I fail you George?’ And he says ‘no, I failed you.’ The two of them are spectacular together. And Bailey, who is dealing with this massive crushing disappointment which you alluded to before, which is all the way through this entire season, I for one was absolutely certain that Bailey was going to get Chief Resident. She is the chosen one. I mean, and the Chief…there have been evidence to the contrary. The Chief has said to her time and time again, ‘you don’t want to let all this work get in the way of your family,’ he was trying to balance it for her, based on his own mistakes. And for her, I don’t think she saw this coming at all, she is certain she is going to get it, and so she is devastated, and George is devastated. And they have that wonderful scene together. And then for me, honestly, on of the most amazing scenes I have ever seen TR in, and maybe it is because it calls back the beginning of the show….it is the locker room scene. And Rob Corn, he directed this episode, and he did something really brilliant that I had honestly not thought of, which I thought was fantastic. In the pilot of Grey’s, George takes his stethoscope, puts it around his shoulders, and walks up to Meredith and says ‘I’m George O’Malley,’ and he gives that whole long, rambling speech. In this episode, George takes his stethoscope and hangs it back on the locker, as if to hang up his stethoscope, and leans forward to Lexie and says, ‘Just George. I’m George.’ No, ‘I’m Dr O’Malley,’ no nothing. And it is so simple, and so lovely, and there is that moment when she says ‘Do you have any wisdom?’ And he just says ‘no.’ and you feel for him, because you know that he doesn’t know what he is going to do, or where he is going to go, but that stethoscope moment is just incredibly elegant, and beautiful moment. And the truth is, in the original pilot we had a whole sequence where he keeps leaving his stethoscope in the car, and it would be wrapped around the stick-shift, so there is maybe even more of an emotional connection for us. But when you look at George in the pilot, and when you look at George’s face, he is so changed and grown, and in a weird way come full circle because he is back being 007, but much more mature about it, and taking it in a much different way. And you look at those kids who are coming into look at the bloody scrubs, and don’t they look so young, and so naïve, and so eager. They have no idea what they are in for. And then there is Lexie. I love the moment when she says ‘I’m Lexie Grey.’ TR Knight does what I consider to be the world’s most perfect double-take. Maybe the best double-take in the history of television and cinema. It is just a beautifully done double-take, not at all self-conscious…I mean, it was really beautiful. And she just sort of turns away and goes…I don’t know what to tell you about Lexie. Except that was Lexie. And she seemed to have had a little flirtation with Derek in the bar, and she also seems to be a new intern. Which is interesting. She’s a new intern, she flirts with Derek in the bar, and her name is Lexie Grey. Take from that what you will. Yeah, there is something in there, maybe. Put some pieces together for yourself. There are some pieces that need putting in their parts…we will let you think about that for the summer. And then I think, you know, the other thing really is, and we touched on this a little bit, is the Adele/Richard relationship. Which was really lovely. I mean, at the beginning of the season, Adele leaves him, and at the end of the season, basically, she comes back to him, and I really wanted to give the Chief his wife back. I’m not saying they are back together, but I really wanted to give the Chief his wife back. Because he has been so unsuccessful with the dying of his hair, and the trying to date, and the flirting and having no game, and McSteamy as a wingman, which is just a nasty idea right there for him. He just wasn’t good at it. Jim Pickens is so funny that he pulled all that off, but you just felt for the guy. It was painful. I wanted to see Adele back again. It is also this amazing moment where you realize that she was pregnant, and he’s been going through this entire time thinking she’s been dating someone else, and she wasn’t, it was his, and they lost it and they have no kids. Which also explains what we knew already, the connection he has with Meredith. Meredith firmly denies, but he does exactly what a good Dad would do, which is he just pushes through her ‘you’re not my Dad, you’re not my Dad,’ to a place of centered maturity. But what I really love about Adele and Richard really important for this episode is, this is an episode where we have said ‘there is no freaking fairytale.’ Richard and Adele come together in a way where, after the happy ending crap was supposed to take place, after they were supposed to ride off into the sunset, after they were supposed to be a fairytale ending…..way past that point, when all the crap has hit the fan and everything has gone really bad, you still can have somebody. And there is a mature place of love in there that is really interesting. But I sort of feel it is the real fairytale. I always loved that. And it is very much, going back to what we were talking about before, which is the point,which is you create your own fairytale out of the reality that is with you, not out of somebody else’s idea of what it is, because what are they looking at?[ They are looking at Joe and his partner, with the two babies, which is not the ideal scenario, Joe passed out with an ultrasound, you know, it is like ‘couldn’t handle it,’ but you look at these two men, and they love each other, and they are a family, and they are living their own fairytale. And Adele and Richard are sort of living their own little version of what might be a happy ending for the two of them. And I like it, and it is happy because it is realistic. Which is kind of nice, and I think what…you look at the interns and everybody trying to figure out where they are going, and the attending as well, and you hope they will get to a place where they are happy with what is real for them. That is the most you can hope for. The last thing I want to talk about is my favorite scene in the whole thing, which is the beautiful shot that follows Burke’s empty bedroom, into the living room and Cristina is standing there in that wedding dress, and then we pull back, and she looks like a painting, and she is just standing completely still and then the door opens, and you realize that she is hoping it is Burke. What you realize, more importantly, is that she has been standing there that entire time, figuring out the things that he took with him, like what is missing from the apartment. And you were saying how much you loved that Burke left her with everything. He left her with everything and he only took the things that really meant something special to him, that he needed. But just to him, and he left everything else for her, so she would be okay. I mean, he took his trumpet, and his Eugene Foot albums, his Grandmother’s picture, his scrub cap….and he left her everything else. Which was so lovely and so kind. And yet the fact that you could stand in the middle of the apartment and not realize your partner is gone, unless you knew him well enough to know which of those things were missing. Exactly, and Meredith walks in and says ‘No, he’s not gone. See, look around.’ But if you really look around with the eyes of someone who loves somebody, you see immediately what’s gone, and what’s missing. She sees exactly what’s missing, and it is heartbreaking. And then I love that she says, ‘He’s gone. I’m free. Damn it.’ It is sort of heartbreaking to watch her fall apart and get that dress off. It’s wonderful. And once again, as our season comes to every time, once again what the show comes around to is the love story between these two best friends, Meredith and Cristina. Exactly, and in a weird way, last season was so much about the relationships between the men and the women, and the season finale was about the friends coming together, but also that choice of Meredith’s, you where Burke and Cristina ends up, and this season does end up with these two women, both of whom stood for each other when Meredith drowned, all the way through this last portion where they are together, they are supporting each other and they are each other’s reality. I mean, I got to tell you, we spent a lot of time in the writer’s room using the phrase ‘burn it all down,’ for the end of the season, and I felt really strongly about it, I was like, ‘we have to burn it all down, in order to have somewhere to go that is going to feel fresh, and new, and also just to complete these stories that we started. And I felt really proud when I saw the directors cut of this episode, because we had done it. We had burnt it all to the ground. I also was heartbroken that we had burnt it all to the ground. And I’m sorry, to all of you, but I also felt we did exactly what these characters needed, and where we are going, and it takes us to an even more exciting place. And you know what, at the end of the day these characters are leaving their intern year, and going into the next step. Yeah, I mean, next year they are going to be residents, with interns of their own, and that’s going to be fascinating. And it’s baptism by fire, to a large degree, and very often a part of growing up, because growing up is going through some hideous experiences so you can come out the other end with a little more of a sense of what reality is. So, on that chipper, cheerful note, we are going to leave you for the summer. You take that burn it down theory and you live with it through the summer and enjoy yourselves. What you should do is have a nice summer and get some relaxing in. we are really excited to come back, though, because there is a lot of great stuff in store next season. We have a wonderful plan for season four, a really great plan, and endless podcasts. Which will be awesome. This is Shonda Rhimes, and Betsy Beers, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. Posted: May 19 2007, 04:10 AM - jenlou1986



flipflopmom	Mar 22 2007, 12:26 PM Post #2
McFlip Posts: 204 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #27 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast " Testing 1-2-3 " 324 [/size] 05.11.07 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers grade "Testing 1-2-3" and preview the season finale, "Didn't We Almost Have It All" (5/17/07). Izzie makes a vow for Cristina, Burke picks Derek as his best-man, and Meredith blanks out. Well, the interns finally took their big test last night, and while we wait for the results, executive producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers join us once again to talk about everything from Cristina’s impending wedding to Adele’s sudden collapse. Of course, this is all in preparation for next week’s big season 3 finale, entitled ‘Didn’t we almost have it all?’ Hi, this is Shonda Rhimes, and Betsy Beers, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. So we are kind of winding down, or winding up, depending on how you….we are gearing up to wind down. Which is pretty exciting, and it’s been a long road – for us, but more importantly for the characters. It’s been a long road for these characters. It certainly has. Everybody has been through a fair amount, and I think, as of last night, actually been through a little more. Yes. Frankly it has been a bloodbath this season. Lots of people have died. A lot of people have died, and a lot of people have been tested in incredibly profound ways. Yes. So, let’s talk about this episode. This is sort of the first half of the season finale. Sort of? This is the first half of the season finale – I wouldn’t say we are doing a part one, part two thing, really, because that involves more cliffhangers, but I don’t know how you get more cliffhangers out of that episode. Well, I was going to say actually, in truth, there are two massive, hanging cliffy things….maybe you could call it a hanging cliff adjacent, or something, but…….because this episode ends with a couple of really amazing things. One of my personal favorites, which is Adele on the bathroom floor, and Richard screaming at the top of his lungs. And not my favorite because of anything wrong, but my favorite because it is such an incredibly dramatic, emotional moment, and after all this time of these two people not being together, for their reunion to be based on her being pregnant with another man’s child is relatively intense. And I have to compliment Addison for some fancy footwork in the hall. Yes, where she did everything but…..where she was all ‘you don’t to see that, all exposed….’ That’s what we like to call the gynecological excuse. But also, how were those hikers? Yeah, we were actually really excited about the hikers. I think that is one of the best, most horrifying ideas, but the most human ideas I’ve heard in a really long time. Yeah, the idea that….well, we can’t tell you what happens, but the guys go hiking and the fourth one comes in with an ice-pick in his brain is pretty cool. It is pretty cool, and also the frostbite. Yeah, all the frostbite, which was really gross to look at, but very cool. It really, absolutely was. It was his fingers when they first revealed the hands, and you realize those are not gloves. Absolutely. The other cool thing is Burke choosing Derek to be his best-man. Which, I think, although Richard was a little disappointed, I wasn’t. I really love that moment where he sort of puffs up a little bit in anticipation. But I think there is something really lovely about Burke and Derek having come from this very, for me, full circle place of really not liking each other in season one, to season two in that moment where Burke won’t allow Derek to call him by his first name, and then they go through the whole bomb episode together, and have really ended up very good friends. I think going through the difficulty of the tremor, and the surgery, Burke’s feeling like he had been betrayed, and Derek feeling as though, in a very profound sense, he wasn’t being appreciated for what he contributed, and they worked through that, the camping, they wanted to be friends…..They have been on a real journey together, and so I thought that it was only fitting. Because the guy who was supposed to be the best-man, if you really remember your Grey’s Anatomy trivia, is the guy from season one who had the ovary inside him, that was Bill, but Bill ended up not being able to come, for story reasons. It was great that Derek was it, and it was great that we could head towards this wedding in the way that we did, you know, with all this great, medical….axe to the head, hikers, frostbite trauma going on. But also that idea of all the interdependency which is starting to build up, which we have been feeling, you know, how dependent everyone is on each other and that these hikers came in…well, we weren’t expecting the guy at the end, I’ll just say that. But I think the greatest part of this was part of the point of the episode, was the friendship, and comradery between Derek and Burke, the wonderful way the interns sort of figure out how to rally around Meredith when she freaks out about the test, and that, frankly, for Meredith has been coming for a long time. I think she brushed the fact that her Mother died a little bit under the carpet, she was very affected by Susan’s death, because it reminded her a lot of her Mother’s death, and then to have her Father, who she had finally started to have relationship with slap her in the face and then show up roaring drink in the middle of the hospital and tell her that he didn’t want to see her at the funeral, and obviously blame her for his wife’s death was…..I mean, I always say about Meredith, that she can’t catch a break. Yeah, because technically, she hasn’t. She drowned…..there was some drowning, there was some death experience….You know, I think it is very amazing that the girl is still standing. You know, I felt that way about her as a character when we first met her in the very first episode of the pilot, and we saw that she had this Mother with Alzheimer’s, and now I think it is even more important to sort of point out that ‘dude, this girl has a reason to be a little bit miserable.’ She’s going to be someone incredibly miserable, and I think it goes to what you were saying about the way that she deals with things is she pushes them down, she doesn’t deal with it, and I would even go so far as to say there are tons of things before we even met her that she has been pushing down, that are part of the things that contribute to where she is now. Oh yeah! And the place she is with Derek, which is, she is this person who sort of pushes people away when she wants them away, and comes back when she wants them to come back, because she doesn’t have the ability to do anything else. And to have them see her like that, you know, there is something so vulnerable about that, and since she has never been allowed to be vulnerable her entire life, her entire bases of sanity has been to hide that, or walk away from it, or say that she doesn’t need it. Yeah, I mean, the experience of being a surgical resident, and all this high pressure, and all of its trials and tribulations has definitely pushed all that for her. Exactly. I also think, in real life, all this stuff does tend to happen in lumps, very often. You feel like you have cut a break, or the more you bring stuff up, the more stuff actually happens at the same time, so she has really gone through a lot, but also is now, for the first time ever, really processing things. And I love the moment when she is sitting there in the waiting room, frozen, totally freaked out that she didn’t write anything on the test, and Cristina says, ‘Look, I don’t know how to handle this, Meredith and I don’t do this, we don’t fail things.’ And they don’t. They are not the girls who fail things. So for Meredith to be in this position where suddenly she couldn’t even write her name on a test, threatens everything that she is. And then the Chief goes to her and says ‘I’m giving you another chance,’ her first reaction, which I totally understand, is anger. Because a) stop trying to take care of me, and cool.gif don’t acknowledge I failed, because then I failed, and I have to do it again. If I acknowledge I failed then I failed, then I’m weak. Exactly, so I love that scene too, because he knows she can’t accept it, so he just leaves it. And there is something really wonderful about that moment where she….it starts of with her saying to him…you know, he comes to her, trying to be helpful, and she says ‘Just because you slept with my Mother, that doesn’t make you my Father.’ Which is so mean, really, because, I mean, I always felt in that episode with Richard and Ellis, where Richard sort of builds for Ellis this idea of what their life would have been like, he would have been Meredith’s defacto Father, and the only Father she had ever known, so he feels this responsibility for her. And then in the end to have him come to her with a test and say do it again, and she looks at him and she says ‘You are not my Father,’ is so heartbreaking, because you can tell that she kind of wishes that he was. I always think that if Richard were her Father, Meredith would be have been a much more whole person. Because she would have grown up with a Father, and a Father with a strong sense of self. Because the amazing thing in that moment is he’s such a relief, because he’s not needy, he just keeps giving…he does what a Father would do, which is, the kid has the tantrum, and the Father looks and says, you know what, I’m still going to take care of you, and I love you no matter what. Which is a lecture she has never had – ever. Never in her entire life, with all any of these people. Oh, poor Meredith. I know, but she is definitely strong and deserves a little tiny bit of a breakdown. Well, and then you have Izzie, who is trying to find a way to keep George at SGH, because she loves him, and because he is her friend, and because she cannot imagine life without him. And so she stands there in front of him and basically tells him that their sex meant nothing. And I love that moment where she says ‘I know you wanted it to mean something because it would mean that you didn’t just do something terrible to Callie, it would have meant something bigger, but it didn’t mean anything.’ And then she walks away, and then you have that great scene where she is basically standing in the same linen closet that she was after her and George had that first encounter, and didn’t talk about it afterwards. And she is devastated. And I love that she sacrifices a piece of herself just so she can try to keep him there, and because it is an impossible situation that she has no business being in, and I think she realizes that. I mean, there is a lot of infidelity on our show, I don’t know if you noticed, but what I love about Izzie is that she….both Izzie and George have a very different moral code than almost anybody else in our hospital, in our world. And anybody else who has been involved with someone else who was married. Izzie finds it profoundly disturbing that she has feelings for somebody who happens to be married, and George finds it disturbing that he has cheated, and in a way, you know, Meredith had the excuse that she didn’t know Derek was married when she started sleeping with him, Addison had the excuse that her marriage was falling apart, George and Izzie don’t have that excuse, and they are both trying very hard to do the right and moral thing, and I think they are going to start to find that harder and harder. It certainly feels that way from that scene, and also you get so much of where Izzie’s head is, in terms of how much she longs for the purity of a legitimate relationship when she works with Cristina. I love that moment of Cristina not being able to figure out a way in postponing the whole vows, and the whole idea, and that Izzie in this burst says absolutely everything that she is feeling, and absolutely everything that you would want to….that is romantic, and that is true and is the optimism of Izzie. And there is just enough to point out to Callie exactly what is going on, and then Meredith, in a desperate attempt to save the ball jumps in and tries to identify it as all Denny-orientated, which I love. But I think that is an incredible moment, because despite what she said to George, despite every single promise she is making to herself, she can’t change the fact that that is what a relationship should be, that is what she feels, and that is what she needs. This Cristina wedding thing is pretty interesting. What is good about this episode is that you know that the wedding is coming, and you know that the stuff is coming, and it is coming up fast, it is coming the next day, and Cristina sort of said ‘This is test day, and I will think about the wedding the day after test day.’ Part of that is a little disturbing because, I mean, many a woman is excited to get married. I would not be one of those women, but many women are very excited to get married. But I think it is going to be interesting to see what happens with Cristina in the next episode, when the wedding really does come down, and we don’t do that thing where we end the season waiting breathlessly to see whether the bride will say I do…we don’t do that. There will be plenty of things left up in the air, the marriage of Burke and Cristina will not be one of them. I like to solve things. Correct. And that is an amazing amount of information, which is great. We are opening up, just like flowers. Addison. Addison and the pregnant people. I love that Addison is suddenly realizing that she is a gynecologist who works with people who have babies, and she can’t have babies, it is that sudden feeling that there are babies everywhere, and there have always been babies everywhere, but this is the first time she had noticed it. But I also love the idea that, essentially, geriatrics and twelve year olds can have babies, according to her, which I think is really funny, but I really feel for her because so much of this is to me how you deal with your dream. You know what your dream is, and how you process your dream when it is not what you think it is going to be. And in everyway, shape and form, each of these characters are going through a moment where this is not how they envisioned it, but it this what they want, even though it isn’t happening as they envisioned it? I really loved Joe and Walter. Because I feel like in a very human way we all feel Joe is not so sure he wants a baby and he is definitely not sure he wants twins, but Walter really does, and he loves Walter and he wants to give Walter what he wants. They have been in a good relationship, and I have really enjoyed watching that whole thing grow, because when we first met Joe he was just the bartender, and then he was Joe who bought his boyfriend Walter to thanksgiving, and then he bought Walter camping. Oh, and by the way, we stunned and concussed Walter, and now we have given Joe and Walter babies, or we are trying to give them babies. This is the thing about Joe, he takes care of people at the bar, you know Joe would make just an awesome Dad, because all he does all day long is make sure people get in cabs, and he cuts people off, he puts food in little bowls in the shape of nuts and stuff, and he gives it to them, and I think he is very nurturing in his own bar-pouring way. So I think he would make a good Dad, and I know he is insecure about it, but I think he would actually take care of things pretty well. And it is nice that Joe and Walter are making some progress in that area. The other really huge thing to me is that Ava, who is as close a relationship as Alex has really had as a friend, they have shared a lot, literally has been hiding the fact that she does know who she is. That was something that we really struggled with, because we wanted this idea that Ava has hidden who she is, but we didn’t want Ava to have hidden who she is….like to have actually had her memory all this time, while they are busy operating on her brain, an trying to help her, and have her be lying. What we did like, though, was the idea that memories come back spontaneously, and that she could remember who she is, and you feel that Alex is the only person in her life for her, she has no memories, and he is everything to her right now. And she still doesn’t tell him that she remembers. And I love when he says ‘I don’t know who you are,’ because of course he knows exactly who she is, which is what is so lovely about everything. And as a guy, who, last episode when she said to him ‘what happened to make you like this?’ and he says ‘maybe I don’t remember.’ It is a callback to me of that, which is they are both people who don’t acknowledge who they are. And it is also heartbreaking how terrified she must be, you know, in terms of everything she has gone through, and once again it is what are your expectations? Her expectations of getting her memory back were huge, but she didn’t count on the fact that the memories she got are not necessarily ones that she particularly wanted. And what was really important to me was that those memories be the most mundane thing ever. I didn’t want a husband that beat her, or was a secret serial killer, or a spy, what I really wanted was for her to get her memories back and for her to realize that she was a woman in a bad marriage. And it wasn’t bad in the bad dangerous way; it was bad in a just not very good way. And that is what she was running away from, and she is not sure if she wants to go back. And there is something about…she had created a personality for herself, Ava. And Ava is interesting, and watches the Seattle Grace Show, and Ava has Alex who thinks she is fascinating, and then to discover that she is Rebecca Pope, married to a guy who makes furniture and it wasn’t a very good marriage is sad. And I also think you have all these dreams for your child, she says ‘she’s a cute little kid.’ She is hoping somewhere, without a memory, that what she is bringing to the baby is something huge, is something amazing, something incredible, and to wake up and feel that you are not that I think was really hard for Alex, too. There are two last things that we should talk about. The first thing we should talk about is the race for Chief Resident. As you can tell, it is coming, stuff is happening, and I love the moment where Bailey realizes that Callie is also running for Chief Resident. Because I love the moment when Mark says to her, ‘How does it feel to be chosen one?’ That was my favorite line, I said it constantly, he has to say exactly those words. And then Bailey waits until he leaves, and then she says ‘It feels pretty good.’ Bailey does expect to be the one who is chosen, it never occurs to her that she has any competition at all. And to suddenly realize that Callie has been right beside her, and that this woman is competition. And this woman has put her hat in the ring, and has no problems with it, which is what I love that about Callie, there is nothing catty about her, about what she says or does, she is a good surgeon, and she deserves to throw her hat in the ring. And she is always incredibly direct. You figure that Bailey was told directly from the Chief a little while ago that you are going to have to get a bigger chair, because your legs aren’t long enough, yeah, one day you are going to be Chief Chief. And that expectation is huge, and also to realize that standing right next to her was somebody who is actually, in a lot of ways, and in very different ways, equally qualified. And I love that, because I love that little….Bailey has a little bit of arrogance, the surgeon’s arrogance that I love, and to have it be a little undone in that moment was great. And you see it with the interns, but you rarely see it other places, it is the sense of incredible pride she has in herself. I think you see it most with Sydney. With Sydney she makes no bones about it, she is really obvious, but with Callie, who is a worthy opponent it has no place. But also you want to be gracious, and you want to be mature. The final moment that I think we have to talk about is Derek encountering a character who we call ‘girl in bar.’ Think we could be seeing her again some time soon? I don’t know, I’d love to. She is very sparkly. But how telling is it that Derek meets another girl in a bar? I love the concept of when things are not going so well, Derek looks at the girls in the bar. And he says no, and he doesn’t do a single thing wrong, but he looks. I love that moment, and I think there is a real spark between the two of them, and it is just an interesting encounter. And I love watching Derek’s face of maybe it is too bad, because of what is going on with Meredith, and him feeling very shut out of her life. But still being loyal. Still being loyal the best he can, but the fact that he didn’t even know that she didn’t write anything on the test, the fact that she didn’t even think to come to him. You have to be patient, you know? You have to be patient to put up with that. That is really hard when you are giving, and trying to love…but also, he has his own insecurities. Yes, he is McDreamy, but the man has his own insecurities that perhaps Meredith is going to leave him. And that is his worst fear, and I love that he is an insecure about all this as she is. Our next episode is called, ‘Didn’t we almost have it all?’ and it is also the season finale. You will see some things happen which are connected with things you saw happen this week in an incredible way. You will also see some wedding decorations. This is Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. This post has been edited by jenlou1986 on May 11 2007, 05:56 PM



oncetherewasaway	Apr 20 2007, 06:54 AM Post #3
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]'The Other Side of This Life, Part 1&2' - 322 & 323 --- May 4, 2007 [/size] 05.04.07 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers discuss the two-hour episode, "The Other Side of This Life" and talk about the trials the interns face in next week's episode, "Testing 1-2-3" (5/10/07). This is the podcast, minus the spin-off talk: The first thing we have to talk about, which I think is kind of funny and great, and then turns a little sad is poor Cristina and the Mom’s, and wedding dress hell! One of my favorite moments is her asking Callie to be the bridesmaid, and then standing behind the mother’s and mouthing, ‘I’m so sorry, I’m so sorry,’ while Callie is mouthing ‘I’m gonna kill you, I’m gonna kill you!’ It is one of my favorite moments between the two of them, that and also when Izzie discovers that Callie is going to be bridesmaid and says ‘You’re not feeling very bride-y’ and then discovering that in fact, Callie’s going to be a bridesmaid, and she’s going to be stuck with Callie all day. She sticks her foot in her mouth, chews her foot and swallows it! It is pretty great. Also on that, the fact that Preston has to come to terms with his Mother. And also, worse than that, Cristina comes to the realization that she told him she didn’t want a traditional wedding, she’s been saying who she is all along, and he didn’t listen. He thought she wasn’t serious. And then instead of saying, ‘Well, I am serious, and this is who I am,’ what she does, and I think this is what is wrong with the relationship, is she says, ‘Well, what do you want?’ And he says, ‘I’m a traditional man, Cristina,’ and she gives in, which the Cristina that we knew a year ago would’ve never done! She is proving Colin right, because Colin said ‘You’re changing, you are becoming a different kind of woman.’ She is shaving off little pieces of her personality to make Burke more comfortable, which a lot of woman do. We are all guilty of that. It is my personal theory that if you are doing that, you should break up with your boyfriend and move on. But, that doesn’t necessarily mean that that is right. And also, Burke says it, because from Burke’s point of view when he talks to his Mother, he says ‘Look, I have pushed every single step of the way, I lead and she follows, and it has been working well.’ And he feels that they wouldn’t even be in a relationship if he hadn’t pushed a little bit. And clearly Cristina loves him, and loves being in a relationship with him. I don’t know if she so much needs pushing, except from his perspective, but he does feel that he has done right by them, that this is going correctly, in his ‘Burke world of logic.’ But I love that he says, ‘She will be happy… someday.’ That to me is such a telling moment, and he is so serious about it and so earnest, and he feels so bad. But also that last scene where…. ‘Are you happy, are you happy?’ and neither of them says it first, and then he finally says ‘Yeah,’ and she says ‘Yeah.’ Let’s give a shout-out to Miss Diahann Carroll who is absolutely fabulous, and is an astonishing actress, and it was wonderful to have her back. I think, obviously there’s just this incredibly, emotionally wrenching thing – the death of fake Mommy, as I like to call her. Susan was…what I loved about this episode is there is this wonderful build. Its hiccups and it’s casual, and its one little thing gets worse, and one little thing gets worse, and it is a horrible, horrible domino effect until they are rushing her into surgery, and then Meredith has to come out and tell her Father that his wife is dead. One of my favorite performances ever by Jeff Perry, who plays Thatcher, is him realizing…it is also one of my favorite performances by Ellen Pompeo. And what I love is that Thatcher, who has always been this meek, sort of quiet person, you watch him, and he can never really look Meredith in the eye. But he managed at a couple of points in this episode to meet Meredith’s eyes. He is making an effort, and he feels like he is getting to know his daughter. He hugs her. Yeah, he hugs her in his stiff little way, and then ends up at a point where he is slapping his daughter across the face, which undoes every little inch they had gained, quite frankly. But also, it is so sad because you realize that really, for him, Susan was all he had. Susan was the glue that had been holding him together since the relationship with Ellis ended. And Susan was his conduit to the outside world, because he is so in his head, and bumbling, and sort of strange and introverted, and Susan was this person who made the world okay for him, in this very, very basic way. And it is just heartbreaking for him, but also that Meredith actually started to let this woman in, to the degree that she did. She started to let this woman in, and because of it, she also started to let her Father in. And now this woman who was the only link she had with her Father is dead. And her Father is lost to her in a way that she is not going to know even more until later. But it is just so sad, and what I really loved was that by the time you get to the end, you know, Meredith said to Derek ‘I want to be better, I want to let you in, and I want to do that,’ but her natural instinct is to go to the place of ‘leave me alone, I’m going to drink tequila, and protect myself as best I can with the veneer of everything’s fine.’ And what I love about it is that by the end of the day, I mean, Izzie’s had the moment with George, Alex has had that wonderful moment with Ava where she says, ‘What’s wrong with you, what happened to you that you can’t let anyone it?’ and he says ‘Maybe I don’t remember,’ which I love. Best delivery ever! And the three of them are sitting in that room, talking about crappy friends, and crappy family, and drinking tequila, as if they have each had just a little bit of a bad day, as opposed to a massively bad day. To me, the show always comes back to the friends, and the one thing I wanted you to feel was that Cristina is alone, and should be sitting there drinking with them, but she is isolated right now. And that, Meredith and Izzie and Alex are all isolated in their tequila haze, and that poor Derek is standing outside the window, which I just felt was so poignant, and, frankly, if you were wondering what is going to happen next, an interesting point for things to come. And you are right, I hadn’t thought about it that way, but you are right about Cristina, because Cristina is there with Burke, and Burke is quietly drinking a glass of wine, by himself, and Cristina comes in and she is all snuggling into him, ‘Are you happy?’ and you are like, ‘oh, my god.’ I love the moment where she says, ‘The dress is too tight, and I can’t breathe but a wedding is just one day.’ Well, in a resonance for her, but also a resonance for Callie where a wedding is not just one day. It is not just one day, and the look on Callie’s face which is her world crumbling, and in her eyes ‘it’s not just one day.’ Yeah, she can feel…….or what George says to Burke in that initially funny section where George and Burke get pushed away by Bailey to go and have a conversation, and they end up talking about the nature of marriage. And George actually says, ‘I don’t believe in divorce, but also I didn’t really think about it.’ He admits it seemed like the right thing to do. It is the most revealing conversation for both of them on where they are in their relationships. ‘Can you love two people at the same time?’ And in Burke’s case, well, Burke said himself he’s hoping you can love one, he’s not talking about himself he’s talking about Cristina. So, it is sad, but I really understand both people’s perspective, which is part of the reason I like this show. So Mark and Alex….Mark is pissed. He is confused, but he also trying to be a better man in the face of not being able to be a better man, and part of it is, he’s still blaming Alex for his own flaws. And yet he has this wonderful moment where he comes clean with Derek. And Derek has that great moment where he’s like, ‘that must have been so difficult for you.’ I love the look on his face, which is just wonderful. So next week our episode is ‘Testing 1-2-3.’ It is one of the final two episodes of this season. It is a fine episode. The one thing I can tell you is that the interns take their interns test. We will be back next week to talk to you about ‘Testing 1-2-3.’ So, this is Shonda Rhimes, and Betsy Beers, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. Posted: May 4 2007, 02:51 AM - jenlou1986



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:20 PM Post #4
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]‘Desire’ Podcast - 321 --- April 30, 2007 [/size]04.30.07 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers discuss "Desire" and hint at what's on "The Other Side of This Life" (5/3/07). 04.30.07 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers discuss "Desire" and hint at what's on "The Other Side of This Life" (5/3/07). The Chief removes a fish from a whoo whoo, George puts in for a transfer, and Addison abandons the project with Sloan. The insiders view on all that and more in today’s official Grey’s Anatomy podcast. The title of this week’s episode is ‘Desire.’ Desire for success, desire to be loved, desire for normalcy. Desire can make us do strange things. It can ruin lives, or it can jump start them. And it looks like Addison may be in for a jump start. To find out more about her upcoming journey and everyone else’s trials and tribulations, we turn, as usual, to executive producers, Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers. They will recap ‘Desire’ and drop a few hints about next weeks two hour episode, ‘The Other Side of This Life.’ Hi, I’m Shonda Rhimes, and I’m Betsy Beers, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. Wow, it is kind of late in the season here; we are getting into the good stuff now. Things are starting to get a little bit juicy, although I’m not sure juicy is the word you want to use when referring to a penis fish. Oh, I think that is probably wise. I think, juicy and penis fish together is just worrisome. It makes your skin crawl, a little bit! Okay, well, let’s just start with the word ‘penis fish.’ I mean, juicy is one thing, but a penis fish, I mean right there is the most worrisome phrase you could ever here as a male, especially if you are going to the doctor. I just want to share with everyone that the phrase penis fish has been around the writer’s room since season one, and very early on in season one. We have been trying to get the story of the penis fish into this show for three seasons now. Absolutely. And I have to give a shout out to Mark Wilder, who recently won a GLAAD award for his episode about camping, and not only did he win a GLAAD award, he cracked the penis fish. He did. And, as we said, the penis fish was one of those ideas that was so big, that it overwhelmed a lot of the other storylines that we tried to tell with it. And frankly, in season one, a lot of unfortunate things happened with men’s penises. And it seemed like we had a thing against the penis, so we tried to hold off, a little bit, because you know, we had the woman who bit off a man’s penis, and George got the syph, it just seemed like a lot of bad things were happening to the penis, so we took a break. I like to think we warmed up for this story when we had the piercing story, because I think it was like the warm up for this story. It kind of got people ready again for the idea of the penis fish. Two painful penises a year, that’s our limit. I think that is probably true. The point is, we were all absolutely fascinated by the idea of this Candiru fish, that if you urinate in the Amazon, can swim up the stream of your urine, and lodge itself in your penis, and can cause you enormous amounts of pain. In the writer’s room, I can’t begin to tell you how much excitement this caused. And also because it does, as we often do on Grey’s Anatomy, the theme and the medicine are connected, is so ultimately the theme of this episode which is why it was so great, that the penis fish was finally appropriate. Part of the reason why we never got the story working in one of the shows is you have to pee into the Amazon. So to go from the Amazon to Seattle; and there were many stories in which we couldn’t really justify how someone would make it from the Amazon to Seattle Grace. But then we came up with the idea of a rich guy nobody likes with a private jet. He’s not a good man. He’s actually having an affair, which is the other thing I love, is the reveal that she might have something wrong with her too, which reveal the entire ‘He’s cheating on his wife.’ Which parallels the George and Izzie story, which is just great, because the ultimate, hideous, possible result of such action, clearly…You know what I liked was the idea that he was a man, the guy who was sick was a man who was not the best man, or the greatest man, or the kindest man, obviously, having this affair, and sort of the nasty side of what an affair is. And then you have George and Izzie, who are doing the exact same thing, and yet we feel for them. It is still the nasty side of an affair, which they both know, and it really brings out the seediness of what is going on here, because no matter what kind of spin you put on it, you are still a person who could be with a person who has a fish in their penis, and can’t tell their wife. Exactly. And also, the other thing that I loved, was he’s not only a big business guy, he is the most important board member for the hospital. And it also shines a different light on what the race for chief means, and also the kind of person you have to be in order to do one of those jobs. A parallel with Richard, whose not. Who works in exactly the opposite way. And what is rewarded in life? The guy with the private jet, who is clearly not being rewarded by the little fishy guy who is swimming around in his penis? Karma, karma. But, is Richard right? What kind of chief will be the best chief? There is no answer right now. There is absolutely no answer. We are still curious about that, because I don’t know what makes the best chief. We have a lot of candidates, and they are all good, but they are all really different. It’s an open question. My other favorite thing about this episode was Ava. I became really obsessed with the idea that Ava spends all of her time in this hospital bed, watching basically the Seattle Grace Show go on outside her doors. She gets the best version of Grey’s Anatomy because she is right in the hospital. She knows all the gossip, she sees everything that goes on, people have nicknames for her, like she calls Addison ‘Red,’ and there is just a lot of wonderful nuances to the fact that she just spends all her time listening to what’s happening, and that was really fun. And also since she doesn’t have a memory, there is nothing else to fill her head. It really grounds Ava in our world, and you get to see how close she has become with Alex, close enough to gossip, close enough to sort of see everything that is going on, and it gives you a really good window into this world of Addison, and her thoughts about Alex, and her worries about Mark, as well as Callie. I think there is something really wonderful about the moment when Addison says to her, purely born out of her own worries about Mark, ‘If you think that there is something going on, there probably is…’ Because, you know, that’s where she has been, and then Callie turning around and going to Izzie and saying “Give me my husband back.” It all tied in really, really well. And also I think that whole idea of how Alex Karev is categorized in people’s heads, like, because Alex is still the guy who we don’t know very much about, and when you think about this show, all the characters on this show, we have gotten to know a lot more about each of them by meeting their families, or by hearing about their back story, you know, with what Izzie has been going through recently. Alex is the guy we know the least about. He’s pretty much the guy you project all your fantasy on, because the idea that Alex is the guy who, at the end of the day will do the right thing, and have the barbeque and the kids is so incredibly enticing. Except he’s also the guy that when you tell him that he would have the barbeque and the kids he tells you ‘You’re not my girlfriend. No offence.’ Though clearly there is a lot more there than might meet the eye. The other surprising person in all that, is Mark, by the way, who stepped up in a very odd way that…I don’t want to talk too much about it because it is explored further in the next episode. I don’t want to point to it too much, but the Mark thing is really interesting, and does speak of a soul-change that we are watching him go through, and have been watching him go through since he arrived. I know we all just sit around and call him a manwh0re, but I think this episode says something really interesting. That was gorgeous, and there is a little bit more under the manwh0re surface. Now, the cake thing, which I just love. Katie Heigl ate like all the cakes, because she is like the thinnest person in the world in this great, fabulous way, and she loves to eat. So she really went for that whole cake thing. It was funny and great! I think it works incredibly well, and I have to agree with her choice. Yes, the red velvet is always a nice way to go. What was great about the Burktina cake extravaganza was simply the idea that Burke was planning the wedding, and how Cristina was so not interested, or involved. But she gives him a little something at the end. She will go with the red velvet. There is a little bit of charm to that, and a little bit of hope. And her not knowing how much she cares, and her not knowing how to express how much she cares, so it sort of slips out of her, and I think that she is as surprised as anything. And it is also really wonderful they all agreed on a cake without knowing it… The other thing I liked was that they are all studying for the intern exam which is coming. One of the more fun scenes we have ever done, just because they are all yelling and screaming and having a really good time. But also, I just love the idea that here you are, you’re a doctor, you are supposed to know what you are doing, you’ve been out of med school, but you still have to study for these exams, and if you don’t pass these exams, you’re screwed. Like there was something really great about them having that big old study group, that was really fun, and it reminds me of one of my favorite scenes in an episode which was the games night. It has that very similar feeling to it, and you realize that there is not much difference between getting your boyfriend to say Madonna and actually figuring out how you perform surgeries and operations, and what those procedures mean. Now, how are you feeling about Meredith and Derek, right now? I’m a little worried about the Mer. And I’m a little worried about the Der. The little MerDer is a little bit worrying. I think it is hard, I think it is really, really hard for him right now. It is really hard for him because for me, what was really important about the season, and the ferry episodes was that Derek realizes that the thing that he loves most in the world is no longer his career, and all the things that he thought it was, it is Meredith. And that he is with somebody who doesn’t necessarily want to swim. So he can’t necessarily trust her to actually be there. But I think it is much more than that, even metaphorically, and just emotionally. Metaphorically he is with someone who doesn’t necessarily know if she wants to swim. And for him, that was probably the most terrifying thing that happened, was that he was faced with the idea of losing her. Really, really clearly and cleanly, like he reached a point of realizing what life would be like without her, and now he can’t trust her to remain there. And so he feels like he always has to be the one who is hyper vigilant, and he is always around trying to swim for her. That is starting to both freak him out, and frustrate him because he doesn’t know if he can be in a relationship that’s like that, which I think is a very honest place to be, for a person. But then I have to defend Meredith’s side. This is a woman who has never really been in a relationship, who lost her Mother, who is desperately trying to figure out where her loyalties lie, and from the point that Derek came back said, you know what, Cristina was there when you weren’t there for me. So I think that she is somebody who is having a really active battle in her own brain, consciously or not, as to how much she wants to swim. But also the experience of drowning for her was a very different experience to Derek’s, and we talk about that in the next episode. But he comes out of that thinking, omg, I could lose her, and she comes out of it realizing that she doesn’t want to be lost, so they are in different places. But it is interesting how everything goes back to the water. We are deeply water specific with this episode, and with this show. It’s all about swimming. And at the end of the episode Addison walks out of the hospital, into the great unknown. Yeah, how about that. How about that, Alex looks at her and says, “You’re not my girlfriend.” And then she walks off with a both confused and determined look on her face, which could mean any number of things… That is all we will say about that, because next week we have to say we have a really big double episode. Two brand new hours of Grey’s Anatomy, and some saucy, hot special guest stars. It is going to be good. So, I’m Betsy Beers, and I’m Shonda Rhimes, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. Posted: Apr 30 2007, 02:48 AM - jenlou1986......thanks Jenna :D



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:22 PM Post #5
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast April 20, 2007 " Time After Time " 320 [/size]04.20.07 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers go back to "Time After Time" and drop hints about next week's episode, "Desire" (4/26/07). Izzie makes a sacrifice for her daughter, Cristina paints her nails and Meredith adopts a mommy. Musing on all that & more on today’s official Grey’s Anatomy podcast hosted by ABC. Well, it’s a time of change for Seattle’s finest doctors, out the old and in with new. The new being Ava’s fresh features and the old, well, Cristina’s old flame, but even though Marlowe appears to on his way out what do his parting words possibly mean for the soon to be Dr. Cristina Burke. I love this episode because there is a lot of things in flux, heavily in flux and sort of in this stage of, oh my god what’s gonna happen. Yeah, there are a lot of the characters are in these big decision making period, transitional places which I think is interesting. The thing I’ve was most excited about, was Izzie’s daughter coming back for a bone marrow transplant which I’ve been fairly obsessed since we decided Izzie had a daughter at all. I kept saying we gotta bring her back for the bone marrow transplant, we gotta bring her back. And everybody kept saying ‘but she’s not sick’..... but she is, we’re making her sick right now. So she got sick. During that period of time that they talked about it and needed the bone marrow transplant. When we did the story line about Izzie talking about having a daughter and giving her up for adoption is was really beautiful and felt really sort of full circle and whole and I felt that Katie Heigl did an amazing job with it. Incredible. And it was something that we never talked about again. And that was purposeful because it was Izzie’s secret. But one of the best ways of using this secret was the intimacy that she shares with George. This idea that George is more to her than just a friend, that they have this great bond and this great friendship that she would go ahead and reveal this to him was really amazing to me. It was a really good way to show how strong their relationship actually is despite everything that’s happened. And he actually doesn’t even listen to her when she says I want to be alone. I want to do this by myself. He transcends all that garbage and goes in and goes in and in essence lies to his wife again because he’s doing the right thing for Izzie, and he’s there for Izzie and he can’t tell anybody because Izzie doesn’t want anybody to know about it. So he is being the most incredible family member ever for her in this weird way and yet denying his own family because Callie’s his family. I also love this parallel story which is going on which is a different kind of maternal story because what I love for Izzie, is that this girl is her daughter and even though she doesn’t get the satisfaction and the release of really meeting her and having time with her, she still realizes that the important thing about being a mother is what you give with no expectations in return. But the way that connects with the Meredith’s story with Susan is really wonderful because here we have sort of an adoption of sorts in its own way, of Susan sort of deciding to be Meredith mother in any way she can and Meredith not really allowing her to. And Susan’s sense of responsibility that she feels towards Meredith, the responsibility that she feels to take care of Meredith because everything that happened when Meredith was a child. She didn’t force Thatcher to try spend time with her, she didn’t get Thatcher to fight for her, she feels and enormous sense of responsibility to take care of Meredith because of that. It is a nice parallel. The two things connect really well. It also good in a strange way Susan keeps bashing at the door with no real expectation or hope that its gonna be reciprocated but there’s hope. My favorite moment of the George and Izzie story is just the moment when George takes her upstairs to see the daughter. And Izzie won’t look and Izzie won’t look and George is describing her, and he says “she has a big mouth which means she probably talks a lot and eats a lot like, you know like yours”....it’s very charming, there’s just a lovely moment. And you sort of go he loves Izzie so much and he loves everything about her, he loves the good and the bad but he knows her. And Izzie stands up and gets to see her daughter with her little bald head and leukemia....it’s all very beautiful. I really feel for Callie though, you know I continue to feel for Callie. I continue to worry about Callie .......I have to say I am actively at this moment in time worried about Callie. I know why, she is in absolutely impossible situation because the truth is she loves George, she believes in George. The thing about Callie that’s really interesting that all along she has believed that George is a better man than he is. And not only has believed he’s a better man she believes their relationship has a stronger foundation than it does. She decided a long time ago that George was the one and she been waiting for him to sort of come around to that place. And then he did, but that doesn’t mean he was actually in the same place that she is. So I’m worried about her. She is hanging a lot on this, pretty much everything is hung on this relationship, so its tough to watch. And I’m really rooting for her because I love her. But what I love about her though is that she’s not a fragile delicate little thing and that she would be the kind of person to sort of stand up for herself eventually. So hopefully maybe we’ll get to that, I don’t know, you have to watch and see, but hopefully maybe she will. One of the other stories we did was Cristina and getting rid of Marlow finally, Colin, in a very atypical Cristina way. And what I really loved about it is where it went, which is the moment when she goes into the OR after Burke’s been a little bit humiliated in surgery, and says ‘why did you use those stitches’, and Burke gives her and answer, and she says ‘thank you’. And Colin comes out and goes ‘you helped me write paper, you know about that’. That Cristina is who you’ve become. That is the most disturbing thing in the world, the woman that I thought you were doesn’t exist anymore, you have lost something of yourself. And then he says ‘best of luck with the wedding’. Which is very ominous, especially when said with a British accent. Cause as we know things said with a British accent always sound better. They actually sound better and much more truthful. But in a weird way I understand he had to go, I was sad to see him go because there was hot and sexy about him and very interesting and a pretty good cardio thorasic surgeon and I think everyone stepped their game up, and all the candidates for chief and the race for chief, the stakes go a lot higher and plus he’s saucy and has a good accent which is nothing you ever, ever want to turn down in a situation. I gotta say one of the things that bothered about this episode was the whole Derek, chief, Meredith issue and the situation that Derek is now finding himself in, which is you can’t win for loving Meredith.....like you can’t win. That might be considered the theme of every episode of our show. You can’t win for loving Meredith. Because he has risked so much for her and yet every single time he turns around it’s somebody saying, you know what, you’re not gonna get what you want. It’s just not fair. But it’s really compelling. And I don’t think the chief is wrong, no I don’t think the chief is wrong. And the problem is it’s Meredith world in a sense like she’s got the chief sort of feeling this responsibility to protect her, she’s got her friends sort of surrounding her and she’s got Derek who trying to find a way in with somebody who has intimacy issues. Who really doesn’t know how to be in a relationship. And now the very thing that Derek..... I think that Derek came out to Seattle thinking ‘I’m gonna be chief some day and this is my ambition and I don’t need women anymore, and I’m gonna be chief one day’. Except he picked up a woman in a bar and fell in love with her. And now I feel he caught himself doing same thing he did before which is, he fell in love with Addison and that is what he did for awhile. He was always very good at his career but that is what he did for awhile. And know he’s sort of intoxicated by Meredith and he’s putting himself in a position to get really, really hurt and that’s what he’s afraid of. I think it goes back to what his sister said, in that episode, which is that whole idea, ‘you always put the relationship first, you think that you have this balance and you’re never alone’, there’s something about Derek still needing that time where he really needs to evaluate who he really is and what is he wants. And the chief not wrong in his thoughts. It’s a difficult decision. It’s a difficult decision, Derek is in such a hard place because he loves her so much and he’s fought for her so hard. And she almost died.....and she kinda doesn’t appreciate being fought for. That’s the thing that I look at and say but you can’t....then I look at her and then I look at her mom and ???? I wouldn’t either. It’s a conundrum. But then Bailey always clears it up for me. Bailey walks in, and Bailey seems to have a clear sense of these people want. Bailey says there really isn’t a question here. But the problem is for Derek there is. There always is, I think that incredibly realistic. I find that incredibly painful because the chief’s right, Derek’s right, Bailey’s right, Meredith’s right....everybody’s right. Somebody’s gotta be wrong. Alex and Ava. Ava’s faux family showed up. The thing that we wanted the story to tell was both how desperately Ava would like to have some people and have some memories and know who she is again. And also how hard Alex is starting to find it to let her go, how that relationship is starting to wrap itself around him in a way he didn’t expect. Its interesting to watch her progress, she has a face now which was a huge relief to me, it was very stressful for us you know. Still she has no teeth if you noticed, her teeth are really messed up. It’s a little stressful to look at Ava’s face and it was a big relief to see the face that they chose. The best part of the entire show has to be Mark as wing man for Richard. Oh please, the saucy duo of Mark and Richard. I love the chief trying to flirt a little bit in the elevator and the woman’s horror and it being witnessed by Mark. And then Mark flirting with the nurse who sort of just all goes to jelly a little bit within 10 seconds of Marks smiling at her. And there is something really charming about that. And there’s that moment at the end when the chief is sitting at the bar and the girls says that she stops by sometime after bio class and he realizes how young she is and how far out of the game he is. And he’s just devastated......and Addison saves him, which I love. It’s great. I think Mark would be a terrifying wing man in a lot of ways. First of all you don’t want your wing man prettier than you. Not that he’s prettier than the chief cause no one’s prettier than the chief. And there’s different kinds of pretty. But there’s a hyper confidence in Mark that would be a scary wing man. That’s more than a wing....more like a center. But he did a good job, he drew the woman over, made the comment about the chief.‘you think if you get me laid I’ll make you chief’.....Mark doesn’t say anything, he just smiles, cause it’s true. Everyone’s trying to get what they can, use whatever game they have. Now we’ve got have a really good episode coming up next week too. In the next episode we do something that we’ve been wanting to do since the beginning of the show. Beginning of everything that ever happened or ever started. Pretty amazing and I don’t think we can tell you what is, but it’s really, really cool, cool thing. Which is both wonderful and horrifying at the same time. As is often the case with Greys Anatomy. But we’re really hoping that you’ll tune in. It’s called ‘Desire’. And we love it and that’s all we’ll say because we can’t say anything else. We’re very close to the end of the season people, coming closer and closer and closer. We’re driving right up to that end of season marker, so things get more exciting as time goes on. So you might want to watch next week. Higher stakes....higher stakes.



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:22 PM Post #6
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast March 23, 2007 "My Favorite Mistake" 319 [/size]03.23.07 - Executive Producer Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers relive "My Favorite Mistake" and take time to preview the next episode, "Time After Time" (4/19/07) George and Izzie developed there own sign language, Cristina tries to turn back the clocks and Meredith has a face off with Mark. Well, it seems the time change has affected everyone at SGH. Last night our beloved doctors were trying to take things back or move them forward. Whether it was Colin Marlowe’s 10 Year Plan or Cristina’s bee kind rewind policy. Shonda & Betsy: The episode you guys just watched, MFM. I’m sorry, ok you guys, like they did it! You know I like to think that George and Izzie they didn’t do it, I like to think they made love. They did it! Like 84 times according to Izzie. Many, many times they felt the joys of love according to you, but according to me they did it...... 84 times. Which I don’t know it’s just an amazing thing. George and Izzie’s making love is something I have actually been planning since we made the pilot, and I saw how funny and great T.R. and Katie Heigl were with each other together and how well they got along. And genuine their chemistry is and they really do love each other. Clearly I had some things to get through first, like the unfortunate Meredith and George incident, there’s also Denny Duquette, and things that were planned, George getting married, all those things. But it’s exactly the right time for this to be happening. So I’m excited about that. And it feels initially from the last at episode to this episode it feels, you kind of go at their pace because it feels incredible awkward initially but then as you ease into this episode was one of things I find amazing when I watch it is, I get really kind of used to the idea and I actually accept the chemistry which is, that scene in the closet. Part of what was really great for me is that we pick this episode literally seconds after the last one ended, which was important cause I felt you didn’t want to leave George and Izzie for a second, you like oh my god is this really happening. And you go from being like eewww George and Izzie had sex, to oh George and Izzie had sex, to I want George and Izzie to have sex again. It’s true. There’s something about the two of them and that wonderful silent scene in the closet that you just realize how much they love each other as friends. And how good they are together and how it’s nothing like the dark and twisty George and Meredith encounter. In a way it the opposite. In a way it brings up the internal question which is the friendship romance thing, and at what point does a friendship become a romance and is it okay for that to happen. Is it as valid if it doesn’t start with one, if you get to this after you been friends. And there’s always the tiny problem of realizing that you might love your best friend after your best friend has a wife, which is a tiny problem. Yeah there’s that little bit of an obstacle probably. And honestly because Callie is just an awesome woman and she really scared of losing George. She really loves him and you really, really see what he means to her when her father shows up played by excuse me Hector Elizondo looking as spicy as can be. He is a gorgeous man. He’s so good and talented and so spicy and gorgeous. Kind enough to show up and be Callie’s dad which was just perfect. And what he does in one scene. Like that first scene when he’s just looking at George, George is rambling and he’s got that look on his face, he’s wonderful. And you also really see from Callie’s perspective totally what it has done to have these parent how difficult it is to shake off that, I’m rich thing and how important it is. And she clearly have parents really clearly obviously love and adore her. This is not a Meredith Grey situation but I think its that thing of, in a weird way you have the parents who love you so you turn out a little bit freakish and who are protective of you, and dote too much in a way. And its absolutely true and I think you also really understand how much it means to her when George who is the first guy although she doesn’t know why he’s doing it, George stands up to her dad in this way that nobody has ever have the courage to do. What I love about their relationship because what I think makes Callie not seem foolish which is really important to me because there is something really interesting about this character, I identify with her a lot. What makes her seem Callie not seems foolish, it that she fully and truly and believes and has from the very first moment she met George, that George is the guy she’s imagined him to be. And almost on every occasion, George has somehow proven her right. So even now in the situation which George it doing it for all the wrong reasons, he’s refusing the house for all the wrong reasons, from her perspective he’s still proving her right. He’s still the guy that stands up to her father and doesn’t want her for her money. So for Callie, she’s not foolish she just believes. And she believes, she believes in the right side of George, Yeah, she actually believes in the good. Which I think is wonderful. And which makes it doubly as hard but you understand why George goes to Izzie and says look we can never talk about this again this can never happen, this never happened. But how disappointing it is for Izzie who I has this growing realization that is was amazing. But it was a much bigger incident. What I loved, when I walk into the writers room and said, George and Izzie are gonna have sex. And George isn’t gonna remember it for the half of the next day. Everybody in the room just stared at me. To me it seemed really important for George for logic, for George morals, and George ethics for him to not to remember what happened or else there is no way he could carry on. I mean this is George we’re talking about. He wouldn’t be functioning for most of the day so I thought it was really important that he not remember. Absolutely. And have Izzie remember and then go from being like, whoa he doesn’t remember and feeling a little of thank god, to being a little bit pissed off because they had amazing sex and he doesn’t remember, many times, and he doesn’t remember and get a little bit offended because you know she’s hot. Because you would, yeah it’s also though for him it’s the line where Izzie is actually asking about this and she is told, usually when you black out, usually when you don’t remember something it’s because you don’t want to remember. And how yeah that’s true, it true but how that so insulting, hurtful. And Izzie’s not......Bless our other girls I just adore them, but Izzie is not the girl that sleeps around, the rest of them have a much freer sex life than she does. The other thing I think is fun to watch is this thing that’s going on with Colin. Colin Marlow is just....... Colin Marlow talking about contaminating a hospital, he’s both incredible but he’s actually totally screwed up the race for chief which is incredible and awesome. And by the way in a lot of ways.......... Colin.... would be a great chief. Of course. And in terms of what he is doing in terms of both Burke and Cristina having to really really look at their relationship. Absolutely. There is something really great about Colin, I mean I love the concept of Colin when you really look at him, you think to yourself Cristina was with him? But of course she was, he was a brilliant cardio thorasic surgeon who had a ton to teach her and that’s kind of who Cristina is, she’s sort of a giant brain on a stick. In the best way. Absolutely. Its what attracted her to Burke and what attracted her to Colin and she is struggling to get rid of this guy now. Who just won’t seem to go away, because she feels she’s really changed and she’s become this very different person and is sort of struggling to be the girl who said she’d marry Burke. Which I think is really interesting. It is. But Colin doesn’t seem like he wants to give up. And also Colin like Burke in and incredibly appealing seductive guy, and he’s obviously an incredibly gifted surgeon plus he has the accent. Colin Marlow is a threat, he’s a real threat. And I really think it’s really interesting that he shows up to make his presentation to the board. which is supposed to be sort of a just a sit down to the board only he’s arrived with a 10 year plan and a big presentation. Which freaks out all our other doctors. Which is very intimidating. Very intimidating. But isn’t it interesting where Mark ends up. I love the fact that Mark basically does what the smart man would do, which is go to Bailey and try to pump her for information. And just rips off her idea. Because basically in our world Bailey is the smartest person in the hospital. Smarter that anybody. And the look on Bailey’s face when she’s realized that he’s ripped her off is very interesting. It’s great. Its disgust and inspiration all wrapped in into a big ball. Also makes you thinks about ole’ McSteamy for a sec because the fact that clearly he has political smarts like none of the other ones do. He just not pretty, he’s not just pretty. And how much of that job is really politics. He’s very good at that. So, in a weird way he might be a really good chief for that. He might be the best man for the job. He might win guys. He’ll abuse the interns like there’s no tomorrow. But that makes good for pain and suffering on GA. Absolutely. He would be an interesting chief. That’s absolutely the case. And also the way he used Meredith’s mother. What I loved about him using Meredith was the moment at the end where she says, I think dead mommy would be proud it’s exactly what she would have wanted. That’s my favorite moment because he does use her, but it does push her ahead as surgeon, even though it serves his purposes and in reality it’s exactly what Ellis Grey would have wanted. Absolutely. My favorite the moment in the whole episode frankly other that the silent scene in the linen closet between Izzie and George. The moment when Derek talks to the Chief about the fact that Meredith didn’t swim and he lays up at night listening to her breath and sort of hoping that she’ll not have get into that situation like again. And its basically his fear that he’s realized that its possible to lose Meredith and that’s now become the most important thing in his life. No, and you cant protect her all the time. But you also can’t protect yourself, you cant protect yourself if your in love with somebody who possibly doesn’t love themselves enough. Absolutely. So he’s pretty devastated, so I think that’s really interesting. It might bode something for the future .......or it might not. We might just drop it. Wish I had a British accent there so you guys probably believe me. The other thing that happened was that Jane Doe, poor, poor, poor, mutilated Jane Doe is finally getting a face. Give the woman a face. For gods sakes, we have to give this woman a face. I can’t tell you how excited I am for poor Jane Doe. Because a Elizabeth who played Jane Doe/ Ava has been wearing the most uncomfortable prosthetics for weeks on end. And what a trooper. And what a trooper. It’s a little uncomfortable to look at those prosthetics. What was interesting was she so humanized the character, that after a while you could really look at the sort of the misshapen face and see the character within. And her voice is so great, cause I think so much of it is about she has this incredibly homey, warm voice that you immediately relate to and her personality comes thru. Exactly. But I gotta say I’m really am itching for the poor girl to get a face. You know I think Alex probably is too. Were all itching for it. That’s interesting too about Alex. My theory about Alex is one of the reasons why he can be so warm with her and he be so close to her and be so nice to her, is because she has a mutilated misshapen face. She is not a hot chick. She is not a chick. She’s a thing in a bed that he can relate to in sort of a completely non sexual way. But I think he is growing with the transformation. He is growing, he helps her pick a face. He helps her pick a face which means I think when she gets her face, if she gets her face, when she gets her face, I think the truth is he might continue to grow in that way with her. She might not get her face, something terrible could happen. She might not get her face that’s true. This episode written by Chris Van Dusen , who by the way is the dear member of the Grey’s who is the person that answers my phones . Chris answers my phone, he has been does amazing things like write Joe the bartender log, yeah and the Joe part of the Joe the Bartender book. And he does stuff like plan our wrap parties, he’s multi-faceted, he’s can write, he can pretty much do anything. He is definitely a Renaissance man definitely. We have a fine episode coming in a series of weeks hence. Which are really, really good by the way and in the somewhere in there gonna be an awesome world best clip show. P probably the worlds best clip show I gotta tell you If you were of a fan of certain people of certain people who were hottie McSaucy, heart patient dead guy who’s alive. Maybe a dead guy who is alive. And that’s is gonna be good. A special 2 hour GA enhanced episode which is gonna be enhanced. Which is gonna be great with many enhancements.. Where different people may do different things.



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:23 PM Post #7
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast March 20, 2007 "Scars and Souvenirs" 318 [/size]03.20.07 - Supervising Producer Debra Cahn joins Executive Producer Betsy Beers to discuss "Scars and Souvenirs", which she wrote. They'll also hint at things to come in the next episode, "My Favorite Mistake" (3/22/07). With us is the lovely and talented Debra Cahn who are very happy to have with us today because she actually wrote the episode that we are going to be discussing in excruciating detail for you which is called Scars and Souvenirs. This episode has probably has one of the most gigantic reveals in the history of the aft mentioned Grey’s Anatomy, which I know there are probably a bunch of different reactions to out there. I know we all went AWWWWW!!! too . I think that in retrospect when you go back and look at the episodes leading up to this you can see this coming. It was all over the place, it was all over the place, the two of them, it’s a miracle it didn’t happen before, it’s a miracle they didn’t grab each other in surgery one day. It’s true. The moral of the story of is don’t have friends, cause it just leads to disaster and sex. Is that the bad moral or the good moral, cause then the moral of the story is to have a whole lot of friends cause it involves having a good time and sex. Right. It means there are options everywhere, when in doubt your best friend. That’s definitely something too. I have also sort of felt all the way along for a while now ever since George married Callie, Izzie’s really been tortured, and she hasn’t really didn’t known why. She was evil, but at least now we understand there was a reason. I always felt for her though because even during that early period when she was really being heinous to Callie I still felt for her , because she & George & Cristina & Meredith & Alex to some degree, they were so tight and little by little this season, everything has been splitting them up and separating them and you kind of get she is feeling more and more isolated too this a whole culmination thing. And her guy died and she was grieving and she was alone, yeah because her best friend wasn’t the for her because he marrying some bimbo that she doesn’t really like. That’s absolutely it. And on top of it, you figure Meredith almost died. She almost bought the farm, so that she was the one who was really believing and got through all of that and I think that sort of in a weird way gave her the strength on some level even subconsciously to go this special place, in the face of death, have sex with anybody who you wanted to and didn’t get to a chance to. And also by the way with a decent amount of bourbon put away in anticipation of the event.That probably had alot to do with it would be my guess. Callie has a lot of money! While we’re on big surprises on the episode. Callie has a lot of money! What about the fact that she’s a zippo zillion trillion heiress or something. Shonda has been talking about this for a very long time, that Callie was a millionaire. And we were waiting and waiting to go public with it. But you look back and you think, it’s the only reason a girl’s is gonna live in a basement. That’s true. Everybody else is gonna find a way to pull it together. Whereas the girl with the gazzion dollars thinks it’s romantic to live in a basement of the hospital. On some level in some weird way is probably rebelling against all the money and the parents and the whole thing because it like you know, I’m gonna live in basement, I don’t need any of this stuff. I’m gonna pretend I don’t have it. Which is incredibly easy to say when you can, but push comes to shove you can always move into the 4 Seasons fall back position. Now Izzie’s rich they sort of have something in common. I think it’s gonna be interesting to see what happens with George and Callie too at this point. Because with all of this going on.....the fact that he so pissed off at her. He’s very upset. She has been keeping this really big thing from him. Easy to say that I don’t like to talk about my money, it’s family money it’s not my money, it’s really easy to say that when you have money. But to say that to somebody who has always struggled and their family’s always struggled and getting through medical school must have been so hard for him and his folks and everybody. What a slap in the face and then also all of that time because Callie was into him faster and it was easier for her to fall into the relationship and easier for her to fall in love, she was always there first and he was always kind of not up to the mark she was at. She’s always pissed, always irritated with him always mad at him and he was always getting whopped in the nose with a newspaper and was always in trouble, all the time. He didn’t say I love you fast enough. He didn’t want to spend time with her fast enough. There was nothing he could do that was right and after all that, after how many months of apologizing for everything he did in this relationship. For her to have been keeping this massive thing about her life, is just wrong....it’s wrong. When you look at her side of it, which is really interesting and while it works so well, you spent your entire life being judged for something besides who you really are, you carried around as this thing it become this albatross around your neck. It’s colored and contaminated every single relationship you’ve ever had, and that’s awkward between men and women. She finally meets someone she thinks is special and precious and in a weird way for all the amount of grief she gives him, she kinda delicate, you know the relationship is fragile and delicate because I think she is always questioning whether he’s really committed, given the relationship with the friends and everything else. There is something about not telling someone something immediately and then slipping into the habit of never mentioning it. Because its easier that way. In a weird way this way she could live in her own fantasy, which is I am like everybody else, I am just like them. I totally understand her point of view which is you want an equal playing field. Even thought it seems like a great thing if you don’t have it, to her because that the only experience she ever had, it hasn’t been great. And then they got married so fast, what are you gonna do, you’ve got a one hour flight, let’s go through all the horrible things about me I should have said that you didn’t know. That’s like one of my favorite lines that you wrote ....the ferret! Is there anything else you don’t have.......yeah I had a ferret, which all of a sudden is what’s great you realize both in this episode and the earlier when he doesn’t know her middle name, how little they actually knew about each other getting into this whole thing, which is kind of intense. No matter how much you know about each other suddenly your faced with the oh my god were gonna be together forever. Oh, I forgot to tell you this and I forgot to tell you this, sure, most of those things aren’t 25 million dollars. But they’re the equivalent depending on what’s important to you. And no matter what you do, you wake after getting married and you think, ‘Wow, there’s this stranger that I’m now gonna be with the rest of my life’ and no matter how well you know them, there’s that moment.....do I really know them or are they a stranger? Burke and Cristina are going through exactly the same things. Which is all the things they’ve issues with are still coming to light now given where they are the relationship, the proposal. And that Cristina seems both into it in this incredible way and ambivalent in a different way. And having Colin show up was like huge, oops, it was a big oops, talking about kinda there being something you left out of your back story. My last boyfriend was also a cardio-thorasic whiz kid and he was my boyfriend and he was my teacher. And we were kind of hanging out for a while, kind of a big deal. So it’s interesting how all of these relationships are going through this, those two specifically, are going through that big special secret that pops out of the cake when your least expecting it, everything I forgot to mention. I gotta say I love the closet scene you wrote, the closet scene where they are both in the closet, and both Meredith’s fake mom and Colin are outside , and they can hear absolutely everything they say. And they’re fighting over closet turf. Because I don’t know if you guys know this, Grey’s Anatomy we really love to put things in closets. We like to put lots conflict scenes in closets and elevators. There’s not a lot of private space in the hospital it’s a big public space, the only people that get privacy are the patients and not really them ‘cause people are putting them in little gowns and looking at their parts. But where you gonna go, where you gonna go in a hospital other than a janitors closet. Now what I want to see, I am anxious to see in the next episode if Colin has the hots for Cristina........but I can’t tell yet. I sort of suspect it, but I can’t tell. He looks a little bummed, he kind of has this deflated look when she says she getting married. But it’s possible.... if he wanted her why didn’t he come get her before, it’s not been a secret where she is. And the truth is he may really, really wants to be chief, it seems like he there to be chief. He’d be a good chief, he kind of blows them out of the water, if I’m Richard I’m picking him. Because why do you want somebody, whose because everyone is gonna be all over each other. It all gonna be competition and backstabbing if one of them wins, and if Derek got to be the boss of Burke ..... ewww! About them continually to prove the alpha dog status as opposed to Colin comes in and is totally from some place else & is suave & self assured and has that phenomenal British accent. And we’re so excited because its Roger Rees who we all really like who is playing the part.And people love to listen to people with British accents, people and will take orders from people with British accents. Ten times easier. If somebody comes in and tells me I am really sick, I believe him and exactly do what they say.And plus for some reason I might even feel better to me because they have the British accent.He is also very compelling and I think he would be a really great choice to run the hospital and as you said puts all the other folks in their place in a different kind of way.That I am gonna be interested to see what happens.Ok, I know what happens...but I am really going to be interested in how you guys react to what happens. What I thought was really moving and really different is this weird progressing relationship Meredith seems to be having with her dad and with Susan. It’s like Susan is suddenly making it possible for two people who can’t under any circumstances carry on a conversation with each other or even successfully make eye contact, It like Susan has suddenly decided its her mission to get them in the same place and to make it okay. It really difficult because you figure it’s Meredith is still, it’s a really long trip for Meredith to actually trust Thatcher. Meredith she still wants to kill him with a rock, I think. That a really good description because fundamentally he left this kid and never checked on her and never checked her out. And left her basically with the wicked witch of the west, I mean Ellis was like, not exactly the poster child for momdom probably, great surgeon though, an obviously incredibly impressive woman. But he left her and didn’t have the guts to stick up for his kid and moved away and started another family and not even visit or a letter or send a little birthday present, nothing, and he cops to that. He basically gave her his snoring ....that’s the big legacy. So I think that Susan is such a kind hearted and she that kinda that mom you want as a mom, she seems kinda rolls for the punches she probably talks to much and she cooks stuff. She’s the cookies and milk mom. The mom later on when you’re a teenager and you have friends and their parents don’t understand them, you can bring them to your house. It’s the slightly more grown up equivalent of cookies and milk. Susan kind of strikes as that kinda mom who rolls with the punches and Meredith has never had this in her life, which an adult who actually is being kinda cool to her, and kind of accepting her for what she is and not pushing her, but hoping these two people can get together. And poor Thatcher no matter how much he wants in his heart to make a connection with poor little Meredith he can’t say anything without putting his foot in his mouth. And way in. Way, way in. And you think on Thatcher point how scared he must of been of Ellis. You know how frightened made of him that he didn’t have the confidence to actually seek out his daughter and how bad he must felt about that. My favorite thing about that, is the scene when Thatcher goes off to fix the fuse and Derek comes in, and there’s great scene where the two of them are talking and they totally get each other. They totally get each other. Thatcher gets Derek in a way nobody does, no because he understand the life of a surgeon, but he also understand what it’s like to actually date a Grey. Yeah, love a Grey, which by the way, not an easy job, not the easiest thing in the world. No, no. Wouldn’t thinks so. So, I’m going to be interested to see if Susan can do anything can do to change this. Interesting to see a little bit of Derek’s past come back with his friend who needed surgery. Oh how cool was she! And by the way one of my favorite actresses, just incredible. Amazing and incredible, incredible to watch her work she was inspiring and so elegant. And I believe that she knew him for a long period of time and they have a huge history together. And he just went to this thing, he watched Meredith almost die in his arms. He’s almost a PTSD state, like he’s still rattled & shaken by the whole thing in a way that Meredith seems she isn’t.And here’s this person, here’s this other woman that comes in who he loves like a sister, & they were old friends and they know each other & he is been her doctor for so long.The notion she is going to let go of life in the way the Meredith almost did, is just way way too much for him to handle. And so he turns into, it’s almost like Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde thing, he turns into this bad surgeon Derek, he forcing this surgery.Its over the line a little bit, but he cant handle the notion that another women who he cares deeply about might go away. He can’t handle it, it’s just too much. So we’ve got another episode coming up after this one but we’re not going to tell you very much about it because we like to make you wait. But there’s some really, really good stuff in it. And I think we will find out what exactly happened in the mystery bed of Special Bourbon............ that’s a morning after worth tuning in for. It’s going to be worth everyone’s time and effort.



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:23 PM Post #8
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast Feb.23, 2007 "Some Kind Of Miracle" 317 [/size]02.23.07 - How will Meredith's near-death experience affect everyone? Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers discuss "Some Kind of Miracle" and discuss its implications for the next episode, "Scars and Souvenirs" (3/15/07). Shonda and Betsy: Emotional amazing journey for Meredith. Meredith had been coming to this point for a long time, the idea that Meredith is slightly suicidal was something I had been putting forth for a long time. There’s something fairly depressed about her. And the idea that she would finally get the guy, get she wants but not really be able feel the happily ever after portion of it was interesting to Shonda. Coupled with all that has been going on with her mother and what Ellis’ lucid day and what Ellis said to her. In season 2 Derek says to Meredith “You were like coming up for fresh air, I was drowning and you saved me” and so the idea of letting Meredith drown and having Derek save her was part of their arc as a couple, and it felt fairly important. The idea that Derek saves her, but Meredith has to save herself. And the reality Derek can’t ever be her knight in shining whatever cause Meredith really does have to save herself was important. One their favorite thing of all time “I had intimacy issues, do you know how stupid that seems”. Which certainly gave them perspective of all of our lives, some of those things that you obsess about. She had to go thru this sort of this Wizard of Oz journey, Greek tragedy go down to hades kind of thing, Yeah it’s a very Wizard of Oz journey to realize that everything she wanted she already had, and its just a matter of appreciate that and acknowledge what it is. But to watch and also get to encounter certainly as part of this, the whole concept that we could go into this netherworld, this death world, and we get to encounter and learn something from our favorite patients. The idea is Derek saved her but she has to save herself. Derek really can't be her knight in shining armour. Meredith's "I have intimacy issues" - gave perspectice to her. Went through a wizard of oz/greek tradgedy - everything she wanted she already had. The whole concept of deathworld and get to encounter/learn from our favorite patients. Shonda - no template for an episode of Greys, can do anything. Episode doesn't feel odd to Shonda. Wanted to do an episode of all dead patients for a long time. Long list, narrowed down to what patients people remembered. You'd have to be in a coma to not remember Denny. Meredith's relationship with Denny because Izzie loved Denny. It was about him sheperding Meredith through this, his way of staying connected to Izzie. Shonda wasn't ready to see George's dad, it felt disrepectful. Denny says "this is your afterlife" to Meredith - why George's dad wasn't there; not directly connected to him. Amazing idea - relationship with Ellis coming full circle. Loved that in death she was a doctor in her scrubs. Pass each other in the hallway was imports. "You are far from ordinary" is the one thing Mer needed to hear from Ellis. Takes care of the relationship; what was left hanging between them. KB is amazing, not many more places we could take Ellis. Connected with all this, Meredith has to admit the truth that she was giving up in order to go back. It wasn't about being suicidal - she let go, gave up - where's the meaning. Derek makes the point - she can swim. She gave up. So much about Derek and Meredith and their relationship. Denny tells her he wouldn't be this guy if you died. We find out what happened to Cristina, what feeds Cristina. This episode is not a love story about Mer/Der, its about Mer/Cristina - their friendship. We found out why she handled the Burke situation the way she did - what do you do when faced with something like this. Left open ended - Derek. Faces his worst fear in losing Mer. Realizes this is his worst fear and that it can come true at any time. Its not over for them, the issue is not over for them. Derek is in denial of the darkness. I'm strong and I'm this guy but he is a guy with a darkside. Freakout with Ellis. Shonda - his yelling at Ellis is what made it possible for Ellis to give Meredith the gift of telling her she is not ordinary. Totally connected. Derek didn't kill Meredith's mommy - just all events are connected. Ellis had a heart problem and Burke was with Meredith. Richard's role - determination to bring Mer back. Promised Ellis he would take care of her. He created for Ellis a picture of what their life would be like - parent to Meredith. She would have grown up in a family. He feels protective of her; to lose her would have been betraying what he promised Ellis. The family he has left now is really Meredith. final part of podcast: Alex is developing a relationship with Jane Doe. He's delicisous! watching Alex grow, interesting to watch. He feels a bond with Jane Doe. He gives her a gift of what he knows about her medically. Only person who can communicate with this woman who has no idea who she is. He sees beyond her injuries, from the beginning like he doesn't notice. At this point, he just hears her, wants to help her figure out who she is. Mark - his decision to give up manwhoring for 60 days. Curious to see if Mark and Addison can give up manwhoring. Prediciton - Mark will struggle with giving up manwhoring. Addison desperately wants to believe that its true that Mark loves her. Denny/Dylan - manwich. Two of the best looking men Shonda has ever seen!!! Two of the nicest guys in the world, they got along fabulously!! Can we do a DDD show? A pleasure and a joy! Loved connecting with Doc (played by Chopper). Wonderful, Denny is wonderful guiding Meredith. Denny has a real comprehension of who Meredith is. Dylan doesn't, didn't know her at all. Dylan feels he was successful, he saved Meredith and others lives- "I saved you, now you are giving up". Liz is at peace.Bonnie and Denny goign through major crap. Both were in love when they died, both stuck where they are. That brings us to very last moment - Shonda wrote the entire episode for that moment - Denny and Izzie are standing in the same place at the same time. Betsy and Shonda's favorite Greys moment of all time. Wanted closure for Denny, he's going to be OK. There are these great loves that last, no matter what. Tragic but beautiful when Denny is with Izzie, he feels her. Shonda can watch this moment a million times.Like the moment where Cristina asks Mer to say a word and Mer says ouch. She rubs Mer's feet and face, remember Cristina isn't a toucher.Izzie and George-left in a difficult place. George is a guy that holds a grudge. His inabilty to forgive & he forgets that he too makes mistakes. Interesting to see George's mistakes.Callie threw down, George needs to choose her. No catfights in upcoming episodes, this is not Dynasty. Great moment - Bailey/Sydney. Taking a break in the airing of shows, need to make them. Some time will have passed. Can't tell you much - Meredith is alive, Derek & Meredith are together and someone is coming. You'll be surprised who, something happens in the last 30 seconds - don't miss it!!!! Remember McSteamy in a towel? Trust us on this. This is probably the boldest thing we've ever done. You want to be there. Watch the episode again, freeze on the manwich & look how beautiful they are! Bye! ________________________________ ....some time will have passed and I can’t really tell you anything about it, characters will be in it, Meredith’s alive in it, stuff will happen. She and Derek are still together. And a couple of people show up who..ugh...ugh....someone shows up who you would be surprised to know is coming and umm.....something happens in the last 30 seconds of the episode that if you miss it you’ll probably hurt yourself. Do you remember when we told you that about McSteamy and the shower and some people probably didn’t believe it, they probably maybe went to bed, or went to get ice cream, didn’t tivo, return some phone calls went online or something. Ok, just trust us, in the Grey’s Anatomy world of things happening, Seattle Grey’s worlds of things, this is probably the boldest things we’ve ever done. Pretty massive, one of the boldest things we’ve ever done.... in terms of our characters and letting them do something. So you want to be there, you want to share it...share the love....share the love...exactly. http://abc.go.com/primetime/greysanatomy/downloads?pn=dl



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:23 PM Post #9
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast Feb. 16, 2007 " Drowning On Dry Land " 316 [/size]02.16.07 - Is Meredith dead? Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers discuss "Drowning on Dry Land" and tease next week's episode, "Some Kind of Miracle" (2/22/07).



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:24 PM Post #10
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast Feb. 9, 2007 " Walk On Water " 315 [/size]02.09.07 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers talk about "Walk on Water" and tease next week's episode, "Drowning on Dry Land" (2/15/07).



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:24 PM Post #11
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast Feb.2, 2007 " Wishin' and Hopin " 314 [/size]02.02.07 - Writers Joan Rater and Tony Phelan join us again to discuss last nights episode, "Wishin' and Hopin'" and look forward to next weeks big episode, "Walk on Water" (2/8/07).



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:25 PM Post #12
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast Jan. 26, 2007 " Great Expectations " 313 [/size]01.26.07 - Writers Joan Rater and Tony Phelan take a look back at "Great Expectations" and tease next week's episode, "Wishin' and Hopin'" (2/1/07).



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:25 PM Post #13
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast Jan. 19, 2007 " Six Days, Part 2 " 312 [/size]01.19.07 - Executive Producer Krista Vernoff and editor Susan Vaill return to discuss "Six Days (part 2)" and hint at next week's episode, "Great Expectations" (1/25/07).



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:25 PM Post #14
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast Jan. 12, 2007 "Six Days, Part 1" 311 [/size]01.12.07 - Executive Producers Krista Vernoff and Editor Susan Vaill discuss the challenges of creating "Six Days (part 1)". They also preview next week's episode, "Six Days (part 2)" (1/18/07).



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:26 PM Post #15
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast Dec. 1, 2006 " Don't Stand So Close to Me " 310 [/size]12.01.06 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers break down "Don't Stand So Close To Me" (11/30/06). Don’t Stand So Close To Me’ Podcast 12.01.06 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers break down "Don't Stand So Close To Me" (11/30/06). Conjoined twins get it on with the same girl, Meredith discovers who her true family is, and Izzie gives Sloan the what-for. We will have all that and more in today’s podcast, hosted by abc.com. Yes, the end of November is upon us, and with it, another new episode of GA. And just like the snowflakes, the dust is still settling at Seattle Grace after the Burke blowout. And today, executive producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers will enlighten us on all that happened during last nights episode, ‘Don’t Stand so Close to Me.’ Hi, I’m Shonda Rhimes, and I’m Betsy Beers, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. We are here today to talk to you about ‘Don’t Stand so Close to Me.’ I just love this episode. The episode has one of the coolest things in it to me, which is, our twins. Conjoined twins, which I was really proud of. Especially how our special effects guru’s made the twins conjoined. How they made that look so real, and how amazing that was. Also for casting purposes, big props to Linda Lowe for finding two identical twins who are good actors and in this case were also talented comedians, as well, was no mean feat, so that was pretty amazing. We had to be flexible in the age of the twins. I think we originally wrote the twins as being in their sixties, older guys, their last chance at life was the original concept. And then finding two twins in their sixties who could do this – we finally just said ‘Open it up to all twins’, and we found these two great guys, so that was really exciting. And that whole idea of this one woman who they both love, which I think is incredibly sweet, and she loves both of them in different ways. We really liked the idea of making this very bickery bickersons love-hate relationship between the two of them a storyline, because for me, it really is a metaphor for all of the relationships in the show. I mean we have got Burke and Cristina, Meredith and her Mother, Callie and George….it felt like a really good way of physicalising what was going on. You are sort of stuck with people, which is great. And I think it is throughout the whole episode that, you know, you feel this way, and then….one of my favorite moments of the episode is that great thing at the end of the twins surgery with Sloan and Derek, where you get this incredibly cool sense as to what their friendship was probably like before Sloan started doing Derek’s wife. I do feel like what is great is that you get a tiny little glimpse that Mark and Derek really did get along, and they were best friends, and that is something that has been lost for them. And while I don’t feel like they have, by any means, made up, I feel like it was a step, a tiny step, but a step to sort of show where their relationship might go. I think the fact that they acknowledge, in that one moment that they had a relationship gives you some sort of glimmer of hope for the future. The other storyline I really liked was the appearance of Molly and her Mother Susan in the hospital. If you saw our episode last season in which Meredith’s Father shows up at the hospital, and it turns out he has this whole other family that Mer knows nothing about, you know how painful that was for her. So to have Molly and Susan come back was actually something that we had been wanting to do for a long time, and watching Meredith try to navigate…It was interesting, because I kept saying in the writer’s room, Meredith needs to say to these people, ‘You’re not my family,’ and it needs to really mean something. I didn’t want an episode in which Meredith says at the beginning, ‘You’re not my family,’ and at the end is holding hands with them or something. Because the idea is that she is this girl without a family, and you have these very painful, poignant moments with her Mother at the beginning and the end, and you’re watching Meredith deal with the family she has, which is the other interns, and then there is her Mother, and then there is Derek, and it is a little late for her. And one of the reasons why I created the character of Meredith in the first place was I was really intrigued by this idea of somebody who essentially was alone in the world, and how that family would form. Though I love the moment with Susan and Molly appearing, and I love the moment where Susan says ‘we could be your family,’ and I thought that moment was really sad for Meredith because she can’t see it yet. It is that whole idea of why she is so close to her friends in the hospital, that over and over again it reminds you that for this group of characters, and for George too, who is in the process of going through something incredibly hairy with his Dad, where do your friends fit in, and in what way do your friends continue to be your family. And part of the whole episode is who you choose to be with. I mean, there is that wonderful moment where the brother’s have been separated and then one brother has to be wheeled in, and has that great moment where he holds the hand of the other brother, and they are kind of joined again. There is Meredith choosing to hug her Mother, I mean, I thought Ellen Pompeo did a great job just standing there thinking ‘I wonder what’s going to happen next, and this feels uncomfortable, but this is all I know how to do.’ Cristina making the choice to get on the elevator with Burke at the end. There are all these great moments where you see these people choosing who they are going to be with, painful or not, uncomfortable or not. Even Burke deciding to let Derek help him with the tremor is part of that, is who you are going to choose to trust, choose to be close to. That moment where he is talking George through surgery, and he realizes that every person reacts to surgery differently, and that you can use systems as a surgeon, you can go into situations and do what it is you have always done, but there is no rule. Derek didn’t wrong him, Derek did a great surgery, and that is just a result of the surgery. And a lot of people in this episode are trying to blame others, and by the end they are realizing they have to take a certain amount of responsibility. The thing I feel strongest about is Bailey, who starts off this episode just so angry, which I think is just so interesting to see from Bailey, just so angry, so hurt, and feeling so betrayed. I mean, the thing that we’ve done with Bailey this season is….when you first meet her, she is this strong, confident woman who you don’t know very much about, personally. And to watch her struggle with her confidence as a surgeon this season was really important to me, and really interesting. She has this very clear code of ethics. And to see her struggling with the idea that, once again, nothing is going to happen to Burke or to Cristina, and that she feels this need for justice, and Richard turning that around and saying, ‘Do you understand the courage it took for Cristina to walk into this office, she’s very much like you,’ was important to me, to understanding, in a way, what Cristina did, that Bailey understands it, and for us as the audience to understanding it. That is why he is the Chief, you know. At the end of the day, sometimes, I just feel like, very often when I’m watching, Bailey has got everything under control, Bailey really has her stuff together, Bailey’s the ultimate authority figure, and she’s coming undone, she’s questioning her ability to lead, which is an incredible place to get Bailey, given where she has come from. Which is where the Chief comes in, and how important the Chief ends up being in these situations, because he does feel like the only adult in the episode. Except for Mr O’Malley, who….I adore the speech he gives to George about the fact that George is angry, and he gives this long list of people that George is angry with. And he says, the person you are really angry with is me, and I think that is so true for somebody going through what George is going through. T R Knight is so loving, and so warm, and so lovable, and George is all these things, and to take George’s character through something like this, to me, was to watch him become really angry. The one thing that George, for me has always done, was when he is angry, and when he is wronged he just becomes this cold, little hard thing. Like after he slept with Meredith, or those sorts of moments for him, so it was really lovely to have his Father kind of give him this gift of saying, ‘you have to let that go.’ And even after he found out that Sloan had slept with Callie, he was this little hard, angry cold thing. He was too angry to deal with it, because there are too many other things going on. And I don’t know if you necessarily feel like by the end of the episode, George and Callie have made up, but they have certainly taken a very large step forward towards something that’s passed that anger. You know, the other person who gets adult stars in this episode is Izzie. Izzie really dresses Sloan down. What I like about that is that Izzie is always, time and again, this person we see who ends up getting a little bit stepped on, just a little bit, because she is nice, and because she sees the good in others, and because she is optimistic. Even though she has been through all this stuff, she is sweeter, but we have also watched this very steely side of her grow, from Denny on to now. And to watch her not take it from Mark was great to see. Because she has spent all this time not getting to be a surgeon and for her its ‘I don’t get to be a surgeon, I don’t get to touch, I don’t get to do anything, but I’m not going to fetch you coffee.’ I love seeing her, sort of say that, to take a stand on that. And Mark gets his own comeuppance, a little bit. McSteamy really knows how to give people the ‘what-for!’ Anyway we will be back on the air in January, and we have some really amazing episodes coming up. The first episode up is something that we tried that is a little bit different from our normal episodes, it is really amazing. But I think this is going to be an amazing episode. And then we have some real surprises coming in the episodes after that, so secretive and so surprising that I can’t even pretend to hint at them, because the guy who comes and records our podcasts, he doesn’t even know what’s going to happen. Usually he knows, but he’s looking at us now and his eyebrows are up, and he’s kind of looking ‘why are you not telling us anything?’ But literally, this is one you never saw coming. It’s good! It is so secret, that when we did the read through, and the actors read the script, there were gasps. Talk to you guys next year, happy holidays! This is Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers, and this is Grey’s Anatomy.



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:31 PM Post #16
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast Nov.24, 2006 "From a Whisper to a Scream" 309 [/size]11.24.06 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers reheat "From A Whisper To A Scream" and taste test "Don't Stand So Close To Me" (11/30/06). ‘From a Whisper to a Scream’ Podcast 11.24.06 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers reheat "From a Whisper to a Scream" and taste test "Don't Stand So Close To Me" (11/30/06). George calls in a pinch-hitter to operate on his Dad, Derek and Meredith finally have sex – again. And most shockingly, Cristina betrays Burke’s secret, potentially ruining his shot at Chief of Surgery. The title of last night’s episode ‘From a Whisper to a Scream,’ describes it to a T. As executive producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers hinted at last week, everything falls apart. Everything. They are here with us to discuss the intricacies of that episode and explain why the soundtrack to Cristina’s life is, well…silent. They will drop hints for the follow-up episode, entitled ‘Don’t Stand so Close to Me.’ Hi, I’m Shonda Rhimes, and Betsy and this is Grey’s Anatomy. Hopefully you were watching ‘From a Whisper to a Scream’ last night, which we are really proud of. I have got to say, this episode, from the beginning to the end, I can’t move, because honestly, from the moment it starts, with that amazing sequence with Cristina in the front, and the whole spinning back in time thing, to the very, very end with the door shutting, I just feel like, in terms of being inside somebody’s head and somebody’s point of view, and watching the world spin out of control. I think a really interesting place to be is in Cristina’s head. Because one of the things that is really interesting about this entire storyline, where she has been covering up for Burke’s tremor, and sort of becoming his other hand in surgeries and doing what she can. From her point of view it is an entirely noble thing to do. From her point of view she is helping Burke in the only way that she knows how. And that is exhausting, and terrifying and scary to her. And I really felt that the only way you could do this episode is to be inside Cristina’s head, and get the whole thing from her point of view, and watch her disintegrate, and watch her faith in the team sort of decay over the course of the episode. But then, in the scene in the on-call room, where basically the whole thing unravels, and you can see him sort of move on, but there is this amazing moment where she’s trying to say to him how difficult this is for her, and what it is like to have this kind of responsibility. The thing is, you forget about Cristina, forget about these characters – they are interns. They get a lot of responsibility on the show, and in real life, they learn to do surgeries. It is a lot of responsibility. It is life and death, and the reality is she has no idea what she is doing, and she is keeping the ball in the air as well as she can. And she has been doing surgeries that actually people who are five years in don’t usually get to do, which is awesome, but at the same time overwhelming. The responsibility is so overwhelming, and the responsibility for a full-blown surgeon, to be taking care of him like that, and the fact that directly and indirectly, she is responsible for her friendships all around her unraveling. The relationships that unravel around her between all of them, between her and George, the potential of Derek and Meredith unraveling, the effect that she has on each person there is devastating. What I love is in the end there is that shot of the Chief, and he is standing there, staring at the OR board, which he loves, he loves staring at the OR board, it is where he relaxes, and you see him standing there is so many episodes, and he looks so sad because if Burke has done this thing he can’t necessarily retire anymore. Like, even for him, it have skewed the course of where his life is going to go, it has skewed the course of Bailey, and Bailey’s confidence, it has done all these things which, I think, are fascinating to watch. It has messed with the George and Izzie relationship. And to me, what I love, is that everything has come from Cristina saying ‘Nobody has to know.’ But in reality all of this stuff has spun out from the fact that Izzie fell in love with Denny, and cut his LVAD wire. None of it would have happened, none of it, had Izzie not done that thing. So to me, I love seeing the trail of where everything goes. Yeah, it sort of trails back to that last scene with George and Izzie, where there is just this wonderful moment where she sits done and says she isn’t going to forgive him today, but maybe she will tomorrow. And she takes his spaghetti and you know it is going to be okay. Because, for better or for worse, they are family, but it doesn’t mean that everything is going to be fine. Exactly. It is not going to be, in that, George’s Dad is really sick, and the responsibility that George has to make, which is, he has information he shouldn’t have. He should be able to be just another guy with a sick Dad. And instead he has this whole other decision he has to make, which is Burke couldn’t do this surgery, in his opinion, and what is he supposed to do? What other option does he have? This is why I love bringing back Dr. Hahn. I mean, Erica Hahn last season for us was….we wrote her as a character who we thought was interesting, and then Brooke Smith came in, and she is just an astonishing actress, she just ignited this character in a way that was interesting. We wanted that challenging, testosterony head-to-head thing she had going on with Burke. So it was really great to bring her back because if there was one thing you ever thought about this woman is that she is an incredibly competent, talented surgeon. So it was about bringing in somebody who was at least almost as talented as Dr Burke to save George’s Dad. And she has that great moment with Cristina. It is amazing to get a chance to bring her back, to watch her work, and have her in the episode. And she is a huge joy to have around, and if you are a hardcore GA fan, you might have noticed that we have a slight affinity for ‘Silence of the Lambs’ and she was in it. I also think that what was great was the over-arching story of the driver who runs into the farmers market. This really, for us, was a metaphor of what was happening with Burke and Cristina. I mean, the idea that, basically, in a weird way they handed each other the keys, and let each other drive out of control, is how we came up with the storyline. Obviously there have been true stories like this. We always try to find 2 or 3 before we write the story. But something that was really interesting about that was just, the idea for us of …..I kept saying it goes back to this couple, who are so in love. This lovely old couple – she loves him, and she can’t take away his keys because she knows what it will mean for him not to be able to drive. That is how we came up with that concept. That is the essence of what is happening with Burke and Cristina in a lot of ways, so, for us it was about illuminating that struggle and that storyline. I also really loved this idea of this girl who was cut to ribbons, visually, and you see them pick the glass out of her, and try to save her baby. I just thought that was a very interesting way to give you a victim of a car accident like that. And also she was a victim who knew the driver and his wife, which is great, because it personalized relationships. And that great moment before she goes into surgery and she reassures the woman that she is going to be okay, which is so sad. This girl has got such a phenomenal attitude about where she is, but also that her last thought before going into surgery is making sure that her two favorite customers don’t take this personally, which is just heart-wrenching, since they ran into her. And this whole situation, metaphorically, the whole hospital is a car wreck. You know, it is just a massive car wreck, everyone is affected. There is carnage everywhere. Everybody’s storyline is in question, or at least concerned, and this leads to our dedication that things not be too easy, over here at Seattle Grace. Yeah, and I think you realize that they are definitely not too easy. Now I also want to give a special thank you to Damian Rice, who gave us first grab at an amazing song which we adore, and I think the placement over the surgery with Burke….when you find the right place for a song that you love it just feels really good. And the other thing that happens when you are placing music is that sometimes you have this feeling in the back of your head ‘Oh, I really love this song,’ and then, what you do is, you put it in, and all the beats are exactly right, and when the words come over….it becomes like this other organism, which is really cool. The other thing you might notice with this episode is that there is not a whole lot of music in it. Purposefully. Betsy said something really interesting while we were sitting in the editing room, which is the idea that Cristina’s….inside Cristina’s mind there is no soundtrack. Which is really true. Any of the rest of us would have some lovely song playing under our thoughts, in a metaphorical sense Cristina’s head is silent because she is focusing on what she is trying to get done. And I felt like a lot of music (because, you know, the show uses a lot of music) but a lot of music, and a lot of score would crowd out watching the silence for Cristina. And actually, as things start to unravel, we are going to use more music, because there is more space to put the music because it isn’t filled with how to get out of this. Our next weeks episode is called ‘Don’t Stand so Close to Me.’ I really love this episode because in a lot of ways I wanted to have a little bit of fun after such an intense episode of 3x09, and we thought you all deserved a good laugh. It is also really moving, and it is about two brothers who are closer than brothers should be, and I don’t mean that in a dirty way. It is a very wholesome way, and you will see what we mean. But also we are really going to see a bit of the aftermath of everything that has happened in 3x09. This is Betsy Beers, and this is Shonda Rhimes, and this is Grey’s Anatomy.



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:31 PM Post #17
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast Nov. 17,2006 "Staring at the Sun" 308 [/size]11.17.06 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers discuss "Staring at the Sun" and preview next week's episode, "From a Whisper to a Scream".



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:31 PM Post #18
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast Nov. 10, 2006 " Where The Boys Are " 307 [/size]11.10.06 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers are joined by Line Producer Rob Corn to discuss shooting on location in Seattle for last week's episode, "Where The Boys Are" (11/9/06). They also preview next week's episode, "Staring At The Sun" (11/16/06).



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:32 PM Post #19
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]‘Let the Angels Commit’ Podcast- 306 - Nov. 6, 2006 [/size]11.06.06 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers discuss last week's episode, "Let the Angels Commit" (11/2/06) and preview "Where the Boys Are" (11/9/06). Today, Shonda and Betsy will be reminiscing about the last episode, ‘Let the Angels Commit’ in which, among other things we met Derek’s sister. As we all know, meeting a boyfriends relatives for the first time can be a bit….tense. Add the complicated history between Mer and Der, and, well, you get the picture. Of course, that’s only the tip of the ice-burg in terms of everything that happened last week, for more details on all of it, and a preview for this week’s episode, ‘Where the Boys Are’, we turn it over to executive producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers. Hi, I’m Shonda Rhimes, I’m Betsy Beers, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. You guys just saw ‘Let the Angels Commit’, which I feel is a fantastic episode for the interplay between Cristina and Bailey, and watching Cristina try to keep this ball in the air, and dealing with all that. Also, it’s pretty good for the fact that Derek’s sister shows up to check on him. From the moment in our second episode we find out that Derek comes from a family of four sisters, very girly, tons of kids. And it is a great moment with Meredith at that point, and from that point on it was sort of always in your brain that it would be great if you saw somewhere of what Derek came from, and that also illuminates a bit of where Mark comes from too. Absolutely. And one of the things that was important to me was the idea from the very beginning that Derek had these four sisters, all of whom were doctors, which I thought was a very interesting……I never felt like Derek came from a wealthy family, I think he came from a working class, lower middle-class family, like most people in America. His Father died when they were pretty young, and somehow the entire family was this group of people who, like, one of them became a doctor, and the rest of them followed suit, in the same way in some families all the boys become Priests, or…And I thought that was very interesting. So that is why Nancy is a doctor, and the reason she is an OB is because we wanted somebody who could scrub in on the two uterus story, it was a way of keeping her character alive. And also what’s great about it too is it ends up really making sense as to why she is so close to Addison, because it gives you this really great connection, they have this very specific specialty they can actually discuss, and be friends above and beyond just the fact that she is married to her brother. But it also makes you realize that Derek came from all of these nurturing, slightly bossy type ladies, which explains a lot. He grew up in this whole family of women, no men, which explains a lot. I mean his choice of Addison, what’s going on with Meredith. And it also explains his relationship with Mark, because it explains why Mark was so important to him. In my mind, Mark grew up without a family, and he was that kid who didn’t have any family, he maybe came from a much more well-off place, but he didn’t have anybody in his life, and was sort of adopted. Not adopted literally, but adopted emotionally by Derek’s family, grew up with them, spent all his time hanging out with them, went to college with him, he is that boy that has always wanted to be Derek, in a weird way. Which totally makes sense when you realize how he’s desperately always one step behind Derek, but in his on way he’s forged his path. And also what Nancy says, and you realize that Nancy slept with him too. That pretty much he’s a rite of passage. That’s what Mark Sloan does. It is, but it also makes me really feel for Mark, in this strange way, because he knows it, and he’s constantly trying to get past it. He’s kind of a manwhore, and what’s sad is he knows it and he kind of…..like the moment he says, ‘Okay, I slept with my tennis partner’s wife, and he went out and bought a gun.’ And you think, this guy, he just can’t help himself. And, you know, I feel for him, because I think he was the guy who at some point was interested in changing himself, and he just can’t. I’ve never felt sorry for a manwhore before, but I think I do now. He is so well-played, and he is so incredibly appealing, and likable, and you just find him charming and just so cute-faced, I got to say. We also had Izzie working under one of the interns for the first time, Meredith. Which I thought was a really interesting way to reintroduce her to the hospital. For her to discover that her status was lower than that of an intern, to discover that she has earned nothing back, yet. And that there was a lot of work ahead of her, and the idea for Izzie…I mean, what happened last season with Denny….I go back and watch it now, and even I still find it shocking what she did, even though it is for all the right reasons, and I really feel for her, and I would have tried anything to keep Denny from dying as well, but I do find it shocking the idea that she could just slip back into the hospital and everything would be fine, was not something we were ever going to do. There needed to be consequences for that, and those are really well woven in by the writers. Absolutely. And also, by the way, the frustration for someone like Izzie, for the first case that she is simply observing, and to have it be something that she so closely identifies with, and the frustration for not being taken seriously, and look, I don’t blame Meredith either, because Meredith is looking at what she’s looking at, and you have to take into account what Izzie is saying, because of where it was coming from. Also Meredith has been charged with this horrible responsibility by Bailey, which is terrible to have over your friend. And to not be able to watch this person do what it is they do incredibly well, but, I also think the triumph at the end, which is just so great, of that fact that you think Richard is going to actually excoriate her, and in fact he gives her a small victory, that keeps her going, which is a real callback to the conversation he had with her about saving lives, and if you stop now you will never get that. So it is people trying the best they can to give her what they can, at the same time knowing that she has to pay for what she did. I love the actress who played the girl who had to be committed – I thought she did a fantastic job. That was not an easy role at all, but she managed to make that girl both human and moving and emotional, and you felt for her, in a way that was really hard. So I was really just excited by the whole performance. It is that scene in the elevator, when she is actually going up and she realizes where they are taking her, which is so devastating, but at the same time there is this look in her eyes that she has been absolutely, totally betrayed. She is just a wonderful mirror for the inner feelings that Izzie has clearly been going through since Denny’s death, which I just thought was fantastic. And this moment, absolutely the betrayal that you would feel as either Izzie or Meredith doing that, you know you are doing the right thing, but it doesn’t really feel like the right thing. But that is just an incredibly emotional and layered performance by Jillian. Now, the other thing that is kind of cool, in terms of the whole relationship between Nancy and Derek, is like, where Derek ends up, in that it is going back to what you said before of Derek getting to a point where he realizes that he needs some space. Yeah, I mean, what Nancy says is really telling, she says, ‘I’ve never seen you single, you need to get away, get away from the women, get away from Addie, get away from the intern, you need to get away.’ And while Nancy, you know, they call her McBitchy, but she is really just protecting her brother, as best she can, because as far as she can tell, he has been incredibly hurt, and screwed up, and all they know is that one day he is living a life in New York, and the next thing he was packing up and moving to Seattle and living in a trailer, living in the woods and dating some intern. So for them, from the outside, when you look at it…I mean, if it was somebody I was related to, I’d be going out there to see what was wrong. So, I loved how protective she was, and the idea that Derek’s going to get away, and that he needs this space is going to be interesting to see how that plays out, and if he can actually figure out a way to take that space, or not, given who he is. The other thing that is going to be interesting, at least for me to watch because everybody knows I love Alex, how Alex actually seems to be continuing to be able to sniff out what is going on with the gynie squad, and that he does what he does, which is that incredible rumble in the jungle speech, where he comes in and just saves the day, which is just vintage Alex, really. Once again, I mean one of the things this episode is about is the small details you notice that other people don’t see, because both in the case of Izzie noticing that the girl lied, and Alex really listening when he walks in on the soon to be husband and wife, before they realize in essence that they are two babies sired by different Father’s, he actually picks up on this very small thing, which is the Dad loves to talk to the baby. To me, the moment that is most telling is when he says, ‘Yeah, you know, I read a few articles on that.’ And he is about to expand on that when Addison comes in, and you watch him shelve all of the interest right down, because he is not going to show that he has any interest in the gynie squad at all. He can’t help himself in surgery, because he has to do what is best for the baby, which is fantastic, and exactly what Alex’s code of conduct is, which is that he is good, but only in his own way. That’s right. I think that is a really wonderful moment, and it is one I keep watching. I’m always excited to see what happens to him next, because he seems to be potentially at a real crossroads. The other favorite moment that we have is the last moment of the episode which is the moment when Bailey realizes that it was Cristina who erased her name from the board, which I just love how Chandra Wilson managed to convey all that fabulous information in her face, in like two seconds. There is this amazing shot, which is this long, sort of winding shot which finds Bailey standing there and you know that whatever has just happened, whatever Bailey has just realized is definitely going to come back to haunt Cristina, and Bailey, in some way that is pretty amazing. And, you know, maybe it will come back to haunt her or not in the next episode. I mean, the next episode, which is entitled ‘Where the Boys Are,’ is probably the only clue you are going to get, as to what the episode is about. You might want to think about where the boys are. We are excited about where the boys are, and we are not going to tell you anything about it, except what you might have seen in a promo, and there are a couple of really great surprises in it, and some things you have never seen before. There are some things in that episode that you have never seen before – ever! I’m Betsy Beers, and this is Shonda Rhimes, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. Posted: May 1 2007, 04:10 AM - jenlou1986



oncetherewasaway	Apr 27 2007, 11:32 PM Post #20
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Podcast Oct.27, 2006 - "Oh, the Guilt" 305 [/size]10.27.06 - Justin Chambers discusses playing Dr. Alex Karev and Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers preview this week's episode, "Let the Angels Commit" (11/2/06). In today’s podcast we here from Justin Chambers, and the challenges of playing a character who can be, let’s face it, a bit of a jerk sometimes. And later we will be checking in with two ladies who truly know the anatomy of Grey’s, executive producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers. They will fill us in on all the details of last episodes sordid affair, ‘Oh the Guilt’ in which Dr Burke seemed to finally put Izzie on the path of being a doctor again. But only after she, unknowingly, witnessed Dr Burke’s potentially dangerous pact between him and Cristina. To talk about bad timing, Meredith finally told Derek she dumped Finn, but got less than a stellar reaction from him. We’ll see how all that plays out in this week’s episode ‘Let the Angels Commit’ which airs Thursday, November 2nd from 9/10pm on ABC. Justin Chambers has been described as part James Dean, part Marlin Brandoe, and that sums up his character too: a bit of a bad boy with a heart of gold. We sat down with this Ohio native to find out where he thinks his character is going this season. Justin Chambers: Alex Karev is someone who has come into this hospital with preconceived ideas of what a great doctor is, he is blinded by his ambitions, blinded by his ego, and, you know, he has been bitten by the love bug, and he doesn’t quite know how to deal with it. He is somebody who is not so in touch with his emotions, it is a lot going on, and so where he’s at is sort of confusion, where he goes…I really don’t know. While Justin’s character does have heart, showing it isn’t always easy to do, especially when the scene calls for him to physically pick up a fellow actor. Well, I did it 50 times, and I have weak legs and a bad back – I’ve been in a few car accidents. And Izzie, as beautiful and voluptuous as she is, she’s about my height, so after 50 or 60 takes, and taking her to that chair, it looks strong and good an beautiful on film, that’s what I mean, you don’t know, you just have to kind of give in to the powers, and I was really happy with it. I think it made sense, and I sort of think you saw the underbelly of the reptile for Alex, you know, and, well, rock and roll, we will see what happens. And seeing that underbelly is exactly where Justin would like to see his character go. I’d like to figure out why, you know, Alex is a guy who comes from a broken home, and so there is validity to his actions, but through love and through patience he is figuring out that he can be a better guy. And I think that it is fun to watch characters that are, you know, that have a place to go, whether it is good or bad, they go. All the characters on the show have a lot of dualistic things, like people in life. You know, we do stupid things, and we do smart things. So I’m anxious to see him go through the trials and tribulations of his second year as an intern, I think it is second year, I don’t really know, television time is very strange. I think for him to come to terms with certain feelings and emotions and try to be a better doctor. That is the challenge that I am excited about. Of course, as always, the only people who can really speak to our characters pain and where they’re going are the writers, executive producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers. So, thanks for coming back. You guys just saw ‘Oh the Guilt’ which we love! It is one of our favorite, favorite episodes. And we are really pleased that we could be part of the support for the breast cancer initiative, which I think a lot of different shows, and a lot of different people are participating in this year, which is incredible. I’ve seen a lot of stuff around about it, before we got involved, and it is incredibly exciting, so we were really pleased, and happy to be asked to actually integrate a storyline into our episode that had to do with breast cancer. I learned a lot from the episode, because I didn’t know about the milk ducts, I didn’t actually know any of that. Yeah, I mean, it was interesting that we had been talking about this storyline anyway, and then to get to do it in this way was kind of great. And one of the things that we had been talking about was the idea that younger women get breast cancer all the time, and new mothers. It is something that happens, you are breast feeding so you just assume that the lump is a blocked milk duct, and so we thought that this was an interesting way to get that information out there. And I just felt that that was an incredibly emotional story. Yeah, the cast in that was great, just incredible, and was that not the cutest, tiny little baby you have ever seen in your entire life?? Okay, we have been obsessed about the baby. By the way, just Emmy material, this kid. He would look at whoever was talking, give them his full attention, really sort of start to relate. It was adorable. He was such a good actor that over the course of the episode he started to look more and more like his parents, too. That child was amazing. That was just really selling his performance. What a happy, happy, giggly, sweet little kid. That actually added to the emotional reality of the episode. And I just got to say that scene with Bailey at the end, when she is talking to the Mom, is one of my all time favorite scenes, because of what Bailey has been through in this episode. Yes, to watch the M and M play out was also really exciting for us, because we had been talking about doing an M and M since the very beginning of the show. And there seemed no one better to do an M and M about than Denny Duquette, especially when so much had gone wrong with that whole case. And it was just really interesting to watch her in the hot seat, and take all the blame, that was pretty amazing. Also, I think it is interesting getting to watch what an M and M is. It was great to actually see one of those in action, to see basically how they work, what the purpose is, and that it is something that regularly scheduled in surgical hospitals to deal with cause of death, and making sure that everyone has done everything they could. And also, I think it is a really interesting issue how much being emotional and investing in your patients is acceptable for a doctor, which seems to be an ongoing thing on the show, that you come back to a lot. Because that is really part of it, where do you draw the line? How do you do that? Exactly. The other scene I was really excited about was the scene between Izzie and Burke. Where he says ‘You have two good hands, and you’re not using them.’ Because to me, what’s really interesting is the idea that he desperately wants to be a surgeon, and she is marching around saying, “I don’t want to do this anymore, I’m not a surgeon.” And he is so clearly not fine, and she is running around claiming that she is fine, and it is this wonderful….they are so linked by this single incident, by the fact that she cut this LVAD wire, they are so linked by it, because had she not done that, had she not told him to get back there, he would not have been shot, Denny wouldn’t be dead, none of this would be happening. And it’s a very interesting way to deal with it, and to see it suddenly from Burke’s perspective, which we hadn’t really, and purposely so, we hadn’t really seen it from Burke’s perspective and his attitude on it until this moment, to see how he feels about the Izzie thing was very interesting to me. And also the secret – the fact that we know something that she doesn’t know. He knows something she doesn’t know, and that is fuels that speech with such an intensity. Because he doesn’t have two good hands, and he’s sitting in a room. I mean, what I love about that scene is that he’s sitting at a desk doing freaking paperwork, which is so not Burke. You want to see Burke back in surgery, you know, you want to see him. It was really great, because you see all the pain, and all the conflict, and everything that Burke must have been going through over the past few weeks in one scene. You see absolutely perfectly both in his face, and with that speech. Yeah, that’s going somewhere really interesting, and I’m excited for you guys to see what happens with that whole storyline with Burke. Absolutely. It is also interesting that a lot of relationships at this point, are kind of at crucial points, both at breaking points…they are at these incredibly pivotal moments. I mean, like, Addison and Mark could go anyway, in a weird way, it seems like one thing, but who knows? George and Callie. To me what’s great is I feel like it’s this group of very incredibly complicated relationships, so you feel like you don’t really know what way George and Callie are going to go, I’m not sure exactly where Addison and Mark are going to go, it’s not completely clear cut, I’m not totally positive the MerDer of it all is going to have a satisfactory conclusion. And I think that is important. I mean, I would never say….I’m looking at this piece of paper, they give us these questions, and one of the questions is, “Is George and Callie’s romance over?” I would never say that anybody’s romance is over. I mean, it is a much more human, a much more troubled, much more twisted thing. What I like about it is that is really feels like real life, because I think we have all been through relationships that just take forever to try to resolve themselves or go away. And it feels very realistic to me that over a long period it’s not like something’s over. They all work in the same place. I was going to say – it doesn’t matter what the romance is, what the problems are, these people work together so they are stuck. And it sort of harkens back to that great scene in a previous episode of Addison basically saying, “You’re everywhere.” Literally saying, I cannot escape you to Meredith when she finds her in the broom closet, which was a great scene, and you know, in a previous episode, but it is that feeling that no matter what, there is no escaping your present, because it is standing next to you in surgery, it is halfway down the hall, and it is that incestuous world when the only people you know are the people you work with, there is no way of taking a holiday. So it is a really critical turning point for a bunch of relationships, and it is going to be really cool to see what happens. Our next episode is called ‘Let the Angels Commit.’ And I wish I could tell you what happens in it because it is amazing, but I can’t. But it has got a great title. I can tell you that Derek’s sister shows up. Derek’s sister does show up, and that’s going to be really tantalizing and great. But that’s all I can tell you. That is more than I usually tell you. Actually that’s true; you just coughed up a big one. Yeah, I know. I’m tired. This is Betsy Beers, and this is Shonda Rhimes, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. Bye.



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