3.25 DIDN'T WE ALMOST HAVE IT ALL

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3.25 DIDN'T WE ALMOST HAVE IT ALL; Airdate: May 17 FINALE
Topic Started: Apr 15 2007, 01:58 PM (491 Views)
oncetherewasaway	Apr 15 2007, 01:58 PM Post #1
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	We have a TITLE! :D ......[size=7]325 - Didn't We Almost Have it All[/size] [size=7]ABC PRESS RELEASE [/size] Thursday, May 10, 2007 ABC Television Network PRESS RELEASE - PRESS RELEASE - ENTERTAINMENT - CORRECTION/UPDATE TIME CHANGE "GREY'S ANATOMY: Didn't We Almost Have It All" now scheduled [size=7]9:00-10:15 p.m. [/size] Originally was 9:00-10:07 p.m. April 30, 2007 SEASON FINALE CRISTINA AND BURKE’S WEDDING DAY ARRIVES – ALONG WITH THE INTERNS’ EXAM RESULTS -- AND A SUCCESSOR TO THE CHIEF IS NAMED, ON THE SEASON FINALE OF ABC’S “GREY’S ANATOMY” Guest Stars Include Diahann Carroll as Jane Burke, Loretta Devine (“Crash”) as Adele Webber And Elizabeth Reaser (“Sweet Land”) as Ava/Jane Doe “Didn’t We Almost Have It All” – Cristina and Burke’s wedding day arrives – along with the interns’ first exam results – and a successor to the Chief is named, as Callie and George make a big decision about their relationship, on the Season Finale of “Grey’s Anatomy,” THURSDAY, MAY 17 (9:00-10:07 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network. “Grey’s Anatomy” stars Ellen Pompeo as Meredith Grey, Patrick Dempsey as Derek Shepherd, Sandra Oh as Cristina Yang, Isaiah Washington as Preston Burke, Katherine Heigl as Isobel “Izzie” Stevens, Justin Chambers as Alex Karev, T.R. Knight as George O’Malley, Chandra Wilson as Miranda Bailey, James Pickens, Jr. as Richard Webber, Kate Walsh as Addison Shepherd, Sara Ramirez as Callie Torres and Eric Dane as Mark Sloan. “Did’t We Almost Have It All” was written by Tony Phelan and Joan Rater and directed by Rob Corn. http://www.abcmedianet.com/DNR/2007/pdf/dnr043007.pdfTop From TV Guide about the finale: Grey's Anatomy - Thursday, May 17, 9 pm/ET, ABC Seattle Grace will close its doors this season with enough drama to lay the foundation for the much-buzzed-about Grey's spin-off starring Kate Walsh, who plays redheaded sexpot Addison Montgomery. But will she leave the others behind for good and truly separate herself from Derek (Patrick Dempsey)? Tune in to this heated hour to see where Addison and the others are headed, and if relationships will remain intact. Got my new TV Guide today. Grey's Finale reads: Change is afoot at Seattle Grace as the third season wraps up with the naming of the Chief's successor. And things are in motion outside the hospital walls, with Callie and George coming to terms with their strained relationship and Cristina and Burke heading to the altar. But will they actually say "I do"?



flipflopmom	Apr 21 2007, 08:29 PM Post #2
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oncetherewasaway	Apr 22 2007, 01:47 AM Post #3
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]SPOILERS[/size] Posted: May 11 @ 03:14 PM by: Dryfish (746 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Mar 11, 2007 Lynn, are you still looking for "Meredith questioning her loyalties" quote? Here's the quote from Stacy McKee (the writer) that was in TV Guide: "To make matters worse, in the May 17th episode Meredith will face another "dark twist," McKee teases. "Many things will force her to question her loyalties.""Writers Blog http://www.greyswriters.com/ Thought you might like to have a look.....This is the National Enquirer article Season Finale Shockers - 29 April 2007 I think these are scans from the NE - click to enlarge http://bp2.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/RjRX_5...leshockers1.jpg http://bp3.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/RjRYAJ...aleshockers.jpg Okay - here's the TV Guide scuttle on the Grey's Finale: "Change is afoot at Deattle Grace as the third season wraps up with the naming of the chief's successor. And things are also in motion outside the hospital walls, with Callie and George coming to terms with their strained relationship and Cristina and Burke heading to the altar. But will they actually say "I do"?" General Spoilers: * new 05/03 - "The intern's first year will finally come to an end with the intern exam, a chief will be named, Christina and Burke will make it to the church, Meredith and Derek will face an uncertain future, and the triangle that is Callie, Izzie and George will become more complex. Plus there will be surgeries and sex. Lots of surgeries and sex," [Shonda Rhimes revealed about the last few episodes.] Source: USA Weekend http://www.spoilerfix.com/grey.php Grey's Anatomy Finale Preview - May 2, 2007 The finale of Grey’s Anatomy is just a few weeks away and already a lot of information has leaked from the byways of Hollywood as to just what to expect from the episode titled “Didn’t we Almost Have it all?” Will Cristina and Burke make it to the altar? Which interns will pass, and which will fail? Will Jane Doe ever discover her identity? Will Addison still be around after her soul searching trip to California? And who will be named the new ..... (link below for complete article ) http://www.buddytv.com/articles/greys-anat...eview-6138.aspx Episode 3.25: Didn't We Almost Have It All? (Season finale) - Updated on May 1, 2007 Airdate: May 17, 2007 * new 05/01 - Cristina and Burke’s wedding day arrives – along with the interns’ first exam results – and a successor to the Chief is named, as Callie and George make a big decision about their relationship. Source: ABC http://www.spoilerfix.com/grey.php Episode 3.25: Didn't We Almost Have It All? (Season finale) - - April 26, 2007 * new 04/26 - Jeff Pope is reunited with his wife (Jane Doe?) and newborn child. Jeff hadn't seen his wife in a while. He hadn't search for her as he though she left him because she was unhappy because they were living in the middle of nowhere. Source: SpoilerFix.com http://www.spoilerfix.com/grey.php Episode 3.25: Didn't We Almost Have It All? (Season finale) * new 04/25 - I hear [Jane Doe]'s getting an actual hubby in the season finale, so it stands to reason that her identity is part of the package. Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide Episode 3.25: Didn't We Almost Have It All? (Season finale) * new 04/24 - [Cristina and Burke] really are going to make it to the altar in the season finale, and the wedding will be everything Cristina did not want. She'll wear a big dress, have bridesmaids and be writing her own vows. Source: Kristin on E!Online BuddyTV- Grey's Anatomy: Early season finale spoilers - April 13, 2007 Grey's Anatomy - SpoilersGrey's Anatomy returns next Thursday with what seems like its first new episode in years. There are four new episodes left in the season, including the two-part season finale, which will lay the gourndwork for the Grey's spinoff, starring Kate Walsh. We've been pumping out spoilers for everyone ....(link complete article below) http://www.buddytv.com/articles/greys-anat...n-fin-5769.aspx Episode 3.25: Title Unknown (Season finale) - Airdate: May 2007 * new 04/08 - The popular rom-dram may — just may — wash away its Season 3 backstage troubles and on-screen waterski-flirtations with a May wedding for Christina and Burke. Judging by pics and sightings shared at JustJared, Katherine Heigl's Izzie is suited up as a bridesmaid, while Ellen Pompeo appears to be the Mer of honor. The spied scenes, though, are merely from a bridal-shop try-on session for Yang & Co., so will the vow-swap actually go off without a hitch? Source: TV Guide Online



oncetherewasaway	Apr 22 2007, 01:48 AM Post #4
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]SONG & LYRICS[/size] Didn't We Almost Have It All Lyrics Artist(Band):Whitney Houston Remember when we held on in the rain The nights we almost lost it Once again we can take the night into tomorrow Living on feelings Touching you I feel it all again Chorus: Didn't we almost have it all When love was all we had worth giving? The ride with you was worth the fall my friend Loving you makes life worth living Didn't we almost have it all The nights we held on till the morning You know you'll never love that way again Didn't we almost have it all The way you used to touch me felt so fine We kept our hearts together down the line A moment in the soul can last forever Comfort and keep us Help me bring the feeling back again (Chorus) Bridge Didn't we have the best of times when love was young and new couldn't we reach inside and find the love of me and you we'll never lose it again cause once you know what love is you'll never let it end Chorus: Didn't we almost have it all The night we held on till the morning You know you'll never love that way again Didn't we almost have it all Didn't we almost have it all (End)



oncetherewasaway	Apr 22 2007, 01:49 AM Post #5
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]PROMOS & PHOTOS[/size] Terri, could I also suggest you add this to the finale file? It is the video I posted on page one entitled 'where to from here?' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB_OoOfpD8g These are up on youtube, btw.....the first 4/6 parts of the episode have been uploaded... Part one http://youtube.com/watch?v=rZt3XQchbTU Part two http://youtube.com/watch?v=hVWuMaajZW0 Part three http://youtube.com/watch?v=S93YgpGNsLw Part four http://youtube.com/watch?v=XvmYI4zxllU Part five http://youtube.com/watch?v=YS2aBMd91sE Part six (this part was added by someone else, person didn't seem to upload the full episode...but this is the final part, so it completes the episode :)) http://youtube.com/watch?v=t4yqExJlBNI scene from “Didn’t We Almost Have It All” Alex and Addion - "You love Ava" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RS-SIPjB8U Alex and Ava - "Give me a reason to stay" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifwReusQa9o Mer/Der Locker Room http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7NotwT45DA Izzy and George - "I love you" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoK1LwVFz5w Cristina's Pre Marriage Freak Out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IDgdijjpfQ Cristina and Mer - "Burkes gone" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUzQ3W6kkJ0 Burke calls off the Wedding http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgOLFXtnOP8 GREY'S ANATOMY "MET A WOMAN" SEASON FINALE SNEAK FOR 5/17 - May 12, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_dVZXfOJWc I rewatched Testing this afternoon.....specifically the end scene with the girl at the bar. Girl : Hi Derek: Hi Girl : Can I buy you a drink? Derek: Woah, you’re forward. Girl : Bad day, I get to be forward today. Derek: Yeah, I’ve had a bad day too. Girl : So.... what do you say, one drink? Derek: Umm, I with some friends, it’s a bachelor party so, I’m gonna....I’m gonna say no. Girl : That’s too bad. Derek: Yeah.......maybe you right. Promo #1 Didn't We Almost Have It All 325 - May 10, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OLHgyfYwTE Promo #2 Didn't We Almost Have It All 325 - May 14, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a5ZYpYFDL0 Sneak#1 Didn't We Almost Have It All 325 - May 13, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_zXs82jGkg Sneak#2 Didn't We Almost Have It All 325 - May 15, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFRrJWh4HYs Sneak#3 Didn't We Almost Have It All 325 - May 16, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8XSS2gVPWo Sneak #4 Didn't We Almost Have It All 3.25 - May 15, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3hHET8wFII SF photos - - May 04, 2007 GREY`S ANATOMY - "Didn`t We Almost Have It All" - Cristina and Burke`s wedding day arrives - along with the interns` first exam results - and a successor to the Chief is named, as Callie and George make a big decision about their relationship, on the Season Finale of "Grey`s Anatomy," THURSDAY, MAY 17 (9:00-10:07 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network. (ABC/SCOTT GARFIELD) KATHERINE HEIGL, SARA RAMIREZ, SANDRA OH 5/17/2007 http://www.abcmedianet.com/web/display/dis...date=05/23/2007 3.25: "Didn't We Almost Have It All"Enlarged Photos http://www.greys-photos.com/thumbnails.php?album=793 http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...5/normal_01.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...5/normal_02.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...5/normal_03.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...5/normal_04.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...5/normal_05.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...5/normal_06.jpg 3.25: "Didn't We Almost Have It All" May 9,2007 http://www.greys-photos.com/thumbnails.php?album=793 http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...hree/325/19.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...5/normal_17.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...5/normal_20.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...5/normal_15.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...5/normal_18.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...5/normal_16.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...5/normal_13.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...5/normal_14.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...hree/325/11.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...hree/325/12.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...hree/325/09.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...hree/325/10.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...hree/325/07.jpg http://www.greys-photos.com/albums/ga/epis...hree/325/08.jpg I found these for those that can't view the GA photos of the toilet paper wedding dress etc... Jenna http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/eng...y/greys3251.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/eng...y/greys3252.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/eng...y/greys3253.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/eng...y/greys3254.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/eng...y/greys3255.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/eng...y/greys3256.jpg http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/il...e/dwahia_14.jpg http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/il...e/dwahia_13.jpg http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/il...e/dwahia_12.jpg http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/il...e/dwahia_11.jpg http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/il...e/dwahia_10.jpg http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/il...le/dwahia_9.jpg http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/il...le/dwahia_8.jpg http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/il...le/dwahia_7.jpg http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/il.../dwahia_6-1.jpg http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/il.../dwahia_5-1.jpg http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/il.../dwahia_4-1.jpg http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/il.../dwahia_3-1.jpg http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/il.../dwahia_2-1.jpg http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/il.../dwahia_1-1.jpg "Grey's Anatomy" Finale: Izzy and Callie - Still Civilized (Spoiler Pics) - Monday, May 07, 2007 ABC has released the first promotional images from the upcoming season finale episode of "Grey's Anatomy" (airs next week, May 17) and it appears Izzy and Callie are still able to be in the same room together. In fact the girls seem to be having a lot of fun during Christina's bridal shower. The love triangle that put a number of "Grey's" fans off may finally come to a conclusion as Callie makes a decision about her relationship with George in this episode. Will she fight Izzy? Or will she go away? http://televisionista.blogspot.com/2007/05...and-callie.html Okay, it looks like Cristina is wearing an ivory colour for her wedding dress? (fabric peeking out bottom of her robe...) http://img3.shareavenue.com/image.php?file...5f782b2c356bc9c And does anyone else noticed that Meredith and Callie's bridesmaid dresses are slightly different, but the same fabric? Mer's is straight, slimline, Callie's looks like it is gathered, or something....and her's has a much smaller bow. Meredith/Ellen http://img159.imagevenue.com/img.php?image..._122_1053lo.jpg http://img165.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=...0_122_481lo.jpg Callie/Sara http://img3.shareavenue.com/image.php?file...e081160d3e8b96d http://img4.shareavenue.com/image.php?file...379f0bfa5e2ba6d "Grey's" Wrap Cake - Saturday, May 05, 2007 The cast of ABC's "Grey's Anatomy" concluded the filming of the 3rd season of their hit drama earlier this week and what better way to celebrate then share a delicious "Grey's Wrap Cake." The cast filmed the final scenes... photos http://televisionista.blogspot.com/2007/05...-wrap-cake.html Patrick Dempsey Makes Women Swoon - May 02, 2007 Pics of wedding scene http://mavrix.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/0...ck_dempsey.html People Mag - May 3, 2007 http://www.people.com/people/gallery/0,,20037274,00.html Grey’s Anatony Wedding Scene — Part Deux Some different pics :) http://justjared.buzznet.com/2007/05/01/gr...-wedding-scene/ More wedding pics http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photo...anatomy-set.jpg Just another pic of them "on a break" during the wedding scene filming- scroll down for more! http://justjared.buzznet.com/2007/05/01/greys-anatomy-set/ Ellen Pompeo & Kate Walsh Film "Grey's Anatomy" Finale - Tuesday, May 01, 2007 More new pics! http://televisionista.blogspot.com/2007/05...film-greys.html GREY'S BIG DAY! - "Grey's Anatomy" stars, Patrick Dempsey and Ellen Pompeo take a break between filming Cristina and Burke's walk down the aisle. http://www.usmagazine.com/hot_pics_gallery Season Finale Shockers - 29 April 2007 I think these are scans from the NE - click to enlarge http://spoilertv-greysanatomy.blogspot.com...e-shockers.html :D



oncetherewasaway	Apr 22 2007, 01:50 AM Post #6
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]PODCAST[/size] 05.18.07 - Executive Producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers recap the season finale "Didn't We Almost Have It All" (5/17/07). Burke runs out on Cristina, Meredith has a choice to make, and there is a new Grey in town. We’ll have analysis on all that and more in today’s official Grey’s Anatomy podcast, hosted by ABC. Wedding bells were ringing last night on Grey’s Anatomy. Unfortunately, the only person walking down the aisle was Burke, and he was going in the wrong direction. And that’s just the beginning of the shockers in last night’s episode. Probably the biggest one of all, the arrival of Meredith’s younger half-sister as an incoming intern. To get a good look at mini-Mer, aka Lexie, or to relive any of last night’s twists and turns, just go to abc.com. Now though, we turn it over one last time to executive producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers, for our exclusive post-finale wrap-up. Hi, this is Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. We have reached the end of the season! We will be taking a bit of a break, but before we do that, we are really excited to talk to you about the last episode of the season. This was a huge episode in a lot of ways. We had all of our actors, we had the church, we had wedding dresses to pick out…..I really have to say, really one of my favorite moments of all time on this show was Burke’s vows. Yeah, for me too. I mean, that moment in surgery where he, first of all tries his vows out, which is the most beautiful, vulnerable thing you could ever do, with that little scrub cap and mask….The only way…I really wanted you guys to hear what Burke’s vows would have been, and the only way I could figure out how to do that, the only way he would tell his vows to someone else was under the cover and the protection of surgery. Something about sewing, and cutting, and doing all the stuff that he does in surgery, it sort of lends him a protective shell and privacy that allowed him to be really intimate, which I thought was really wonderful. And this incredible moment when Addison says "I think I speak for all of us when I say dump Yang. Dump Yang, and marry me." What is also great is that he, I don’t know why it struck me the last time I saw it, but he has memorized these vows, he is so proud of these vows, he has worked really hard on them, he has to say them with the words Cristina Yang and the whole ….and Cristina Yang washes hers, off her hand…you know, that the contrast between the two sets of vows ……she has barely written her vows, she has come up with something Izzie said. What I always thought was really telling for me was that at the beginning of the episode Cristina gives this whole speech about the heart, the heart is an organ, it pumps blood, it doesn't speak, it doesn’t have tiny little lips…..which all about the heart is this very unemotional thing. And then Burke says his vows, and he says ‘I am a heart man. I lay my heart in the palm of your hands.’ Like, the heart is this incredibly emotional thing, and they are at complete cross-purposes with each other. And I always felt, if you were really super crazy, and paying attention, that you would figure out at that moment that this is not going to work. There were hints all along, since 2 or 3 episodes ago that, you know, from the moment she says ‘Whatever happened to city hall?’ Well, I have to say there have been hints, I mean, from the moment he proposed, things were not good since he proposed simply to end their standoff. But yeah, they have been in a tough place, and what I love about this episode is just the…watching Cristina, who is our tough, surgical Cristina Yang at the beginning of the season, and by the end of the season she is standing there in her wedding dress with no eyebrows, and sort of looks like a painted doll. And she has become completely different to the person that we/she thought she was going to be. And I think by trying to make herself do something that she thinks is expected of her because she loves him, she tries to push herself through this incredible transformation which changes who she is. Well, I think it is, you know, some women get caught up in the idea of…you know, she has been shaving off little pieces of her personality all season to accommodate Burke, because she loves him. And it is what her former boyfriend says which is ‘You’re changing. You’re not the woman I knew.’ And I don’t think she realizes it until the moment when Mama takes her eyebrows. And I love the moment when she shows up and she says ‘they took my eyebrows and she called me a Burke.’ And then she is standing there with Bailey, and she says this incredibly emotional, heartfelt speech about why she has to be allowed to cut, because she has no dignity, and she doesn’t feel like herself, and she is realizing that. And I always feel that you think at that moment, maybe she’s not going to go through with this. Well, exactly. And also that feeling of the first time she puts the choker on, which is right before the eyebrows comment, she says ‘I don’t know. First of all it’s tight, and it’s what Burke’s have always worn, but I don’t think it’s me.’ And over and over again she says, in these different ways, for such a long time, I don’t think it’s me, I don’t think it’s me. But it is something we are all raised to believe, on some level…it is the fairytale. Part of this whole thing is the idea of happily ever after. I mean, Meredith talked about it right before she drowned…it’s the idea that they are all supposed to be living happily ever after, they have got the guy, it is the fairytale, it is the myth that we have all been given, and it doesn’t feel like happily ever after. It just feels like life. And in a weird way the only happily ever after is the happily ever after you tailor to yourself, and which comes specifically out of yourself. The hard thing for Cristina is that this wedding didn’t come out of herself. And that is what Meredith is struggling with. I mean, when she says ‘We need this, Cristina, we need you to get your happy ending, and ’the entire episode she has been saying‘ I need you to get married. I need this to happen. You can do this, right? You can do this, you can do this.’ And so, when it doesn’t happen, when Burke makes that long walk down the aisle and comes into the room and it doesn’t happen, for Meredith, that is the end of the fairytale, you don’t get your happy endings, and she kind of gives up when she walks up to the altar and says ‘It’s over. It is so over.’ She is not just talking about the wedding, she is talking about her ideas of happy endings, she’s talking about her and Derek……it’s over. And it is also for her, and with a lot of people, the idea of never having seen a happy relationship, or never having grown up in one, never having had one herself, of never having had any model for one, you look all around yourself, and she was hanging on Cristina’s marriage to work because it would be the first model of somebody doing it, somebody like her that she could identify with, with whom she was close, that she could see as a beacon for a way that it could get done, and when it doesn’t happen, it crushes her. And I love, I mean, I think that in a weird way, what Burke does is this incredibly romantic thing. The only thing he could do when he realized what had happened was to set her free. It is the most romantic….I mean, he could have married her and made her chattel, sure, that would have been fine…for him. But he realized that she was going to become less and less Cristina the more that they were together, so I thought that it was lovely that he lets her go. And it is, in a strange way the most momentous time, but the first time he actually understands and sees her. Yes, it is the first time he really sees her, and that is kind of amazing. I love the walk down the aisle, and you know he says ‘It’s Cristina. She just needs a little push.’ And it is this long, incredibly endless walk where you can see little by little by little him coming to the realization that in a relationship where you always need to give the push, it is not a push, it is a momentously gigantic ton-like shove. Well, and also, he has been saying all along that when he sees Cristina coming down that aisle he is going to know, he is just going to know that everything is right. And suddenly he realizes that he is not seeing Cristina coming down the aisle, he is walking back down the aisle to get her, and he is walking down the aisle to get her once again, which is not the way it is supposed to be. We were really proud of that. Also I think that as a moment, as a purely, not only visual but emotional moment, the idea of Meredith cutting her out of the wedding dress. The season began with Meredith helping Izzie out of the prom dress, and it ends with Meredith helping Cristina out of the wedding dress. And that was really important to me, because it is the whole…Izzie starts off the season sort of realizing that there are no fairytales, there are no happy endings, and it takes the rest of the season for the rest of the women to catch up, in a weird way. I just felt this was so the season in which the women, all of the women, Bailey, Cristina, all of them, realize that there is some sort of myth to the idea that you can have it all. Like, I love the idea that Bailey gets to have this great family life, but she is not where she wants in her career(when she is not named Chief Resident), and Callie gets to be Chief Resident, but her family life is incredibly shaky right now. I think there is something important about that, and interesting, and true. I don’t know anybody who has everything. No, and the expectation that you can is one of the most strangely crippling things…… Even with Bailey over the course of the season the fact that, yeah, she is trying to be a Mother, she is trying to be Chief Resident, she opens the clinic, and she still has to sing her baby to sleep over the phone. Yeah, and for each of them, I think for the men too, it is about getting to a particular point and realizing that your expectation of what you were going to have is not what you thought it be. Absolutely. For all of them. It is the same for the Chief where the Chief did everything right up to a point, yes, he had an obsession with Meredith’s Mom, yes, it affected his relationship, but you watch over the course of this episode, and at the end, the realization that no matter what he does, he still needs to be Chief because he has work to do as the Chief, but he needs to be Chief in a different way, with his wife. He needs to figure out a way to acknowledge both. I love the idea that he is sort of , you know, he has that lovely moment with Adele, and then he is standing there looking out over his hospital and you are not quite sure how he is going to do it, or what he is going to do, but you know that he wants to do it differently. And that is interesting to me. One of my other favorite moments is Derek coming to Meredith and saying, you know, ‘put me out of my misery.’ Which, I don’t know about you, but Patrick Dempsey has the ability to say things like ‘you are the love of my life,’ better than anybody I have ever seen. Yeah, and watching him form the word ‘love.’ It is funny though, because he says ‘you are the love of my life,’ and he asks her to put him out of his misery, because he’s in it, and if she is not in it enough…and one of my favorite things that Ellen Pompeo does is that she stands there for a moment, and then she kind of starts to smile in a panicked way, and says ‘Cristina’s getting married, and I have to go,’ and Derek looks at her and says ‘Meredith,’ and it’s like he is suddenly realizing that she is so supremely damaged that she might not be able to get through this. Like, she really might not make it here, in this relationship. And, you know, you really really think she wants to. She does want to, desperately, she just doesn’t know how. She doesn’t have the skills set, which is why she is looking to Cristina, to see if Cristina can teach her so that she can actually do it, which is why it is so important. Which brings me to Alex, because I have said time and again….and it was no accident that the Alex/Ava scene and the Meredith/Derek scene were right next to each other, I’ve said time and again that Alex and Meredith are nothing more than mirrors of one another. He is the male version of Meredith in a lot of ways. He is just as damaged, he is just as twisty, and when Ava (I mean, how great was Elizabeth Reaser…) asks him to give her a reason to stay, and he can’t, because he thinks that he is not good enough, because he is too damaged, because he doesn’t have it in him, and then Meredith sort of pushes off Derek, you are sort of like, god, these two people, like they are so close, like, Ava is amazing. Well, yeah, and Alex is so close that he sits down with Addison and tries his old garbage, Addison calls him on it, he leaves the church….yes, and that is what I love. Alex actually has the courage to go running back, and obviously too late, Ava is gone, but that is Alex. And that is his safety net, which is, he always shows up too late. That is what keeps him where he is, and in a way I think it is kind of purposeful. I mean, I love that he shows up at the church and starts to hit on Addison again, like, ‘I’ll just find someone to screw,’ basically, that is his attitude. One of the great things that happens at the church is that, other than Alex realizing that he is madly in love with Ava and should run back to her, is that Callie takes a stand for her man. Which is one of my favorite moments ever of Callie’s, because I love that she’s, and I recognize, and I think if you are over the age of 37, you have had it happen to you that one day you psychotically decide you want a baby, and you can’t do anything about it….and I think it is possible that many a woman has felt that way. But what I think is interesting is that I don’t think Callie believes that she is trying to have a baby to save her relationship, which I highly recommend that none of you at home do, because I don’t think that works…bad idea. But I do think that Callie, or anybody, can make themselves believe that they are not having a baby to save their relationship, they are having a baby to take their relationship to the next level. Which is the lie that many people tell themselves. And look, actually, I think that George, when he proposed to Callie, didn’t connect it necessarily with his Dad’s death, but in truth there is a certain amount of denial that goes on with each thing, and pushes you from one thing to the next. Absolutely, and if you look at Callie, and what has been going on from her perspective, everything that George has done, every action that he has taken, even though we as the audience know it’s for the wrong reasons, proposing, standing up to her Father, all those things…to her, all it does is prove to her that George is the man she thought he was. And it makes her love him more, each one of these things he does. Yeah, it is a terrible mistake, but it is an honest one on her part. She believes that George is a better man than he is, and he keeps proving her right in her mind. So, even with the thing that is going on with Izzie, he still chooses to go to Mercy West, he is still doing all the things that she feels are important. And so, when she goes to him and says she wants to have a baby, and she gives that great speech about how she is crazy and a freak, and he should run she was just being honest in the only way she can. But when she gets to the church, and Izzie is asking for George, and wondering where George is, it is like (and I don’t know if I am allowed to say this on the podcast) she peed a little bit on George, she marked her territory. Because not only does she tell Izzie that they are trying to have a baby, but she also says that ‘I was named Chief Resident today.’ So, basically what she is saying is ‘I am, in effect, your boss. And I’m trying to have a baby with my man, whom you want. Whom I’m sending to another hospital.’ She is sort of like, back off, and yes, Callie doesn’t have all the information, she doesn’t know that Izzie’s told George she was in love with him, she doesn’t know that George failed his intern exam, she doesn’t have all of the information, but neither does Izzie. It is kind of amazing….the only person who has as much information as possible is George, who is not talking, which I love. He doesn’t talk really, at all, in this episode. I love the moments at the end for him, because there is that wonderful scene that he has with Bailey where Bailey says ‘Did I fail you George?’ And he says ‘no, I failed you.’ The two of them are spectacular together. And Bailey, who is dealing with this massive crushing disappointment which you alluded to before, which is all the way through this entire season, I for one was absolutely certain that Bailey was going to get Chief Resident. She is the chosen one. I mean, and the Chief…there have been evidence to the contrary. The Chief has said to her time and time again, ‘you don’t want to let all this work get in the way of your family,’ he was trying to balance it for her, based on his own mistakes. And for her, I don’t think she saw this coming at all, she is certain she is going to get it, and so she is devastated, and George is devastated. And they have that wonderful scene together. And then for me, honestly, on of the most amazing scenes I have ever seen TR in, and maybe it is because it calls back the beginning of the show….it is the locker room scene. And Rob Corn, he directed this episode, and he did something really brilliant that I had honestly not thought of, which I thought was fantastic. In the pilot of Grey’s, George takes his stethoscope, puts it around his shoulders, and walks up to Meredith and says ‘I’m George O’Malley,’ and he gives that whole long, rambling speech. In this episode, George takes his stethoscope and hangs it back on the locker, as if to hang up his stethoscope, and leans forward to Lexie and says, ‘Just George. I’m George.’ No, ‘I’m Dr O’Malley,’ no nothing. And it is so simple, and so lovely, and there is that moment when she says ‘Do you have any wisdom?’ And he just says ‘no.’ and you feel for him, because you know that he doesn’t know what he is going to do, or where he is going to go, but that stethoscope moment is just incredibly elegant, and beautiful moment. And the truth is, in the original pilot we had a whole sequence where he keeps leaving his stethoscope in the car, and it would be wrapped around the stick-shift, so there is maybe even more of an emotional connection for us. But when you look at George in the pilot, and when you look at George’s face, he is so changed and grown, and in a weird way come full circle because he is back being 007, but much more mature about it, and taking it in a much different way. And you look at those kids who are coming into look at the bloody scrubs, and don’t they look so young, and so naïve, and so eager. They have no idea what they are in for. And then there is Lexie. I love the moment when she says ‘I’m Lexie Grey.’ TR Knight does what I consider to be the world’s most perfect double-take. Maybe the best double-take in the history of television and cinema. It is just a beautifully done double-take, not at all self-conscious…I mean, it was really beautiful. And she just sort of turns away and goes…I don’t know what to tell you about Lexie. Except that was Lexie. And she seemed to have had a little flirtation with Derek in the bar, and she also seems to be a new intern. Which is interesting. She’s a new intern, she flirts with Derek in the bar, and her name is Lexie Grey. Take from that what you will. Yeah, there is something in there, maybe. Put some pieces together for yourself. There are some pieces that need putting in their parts…we will let you think about that for the summer. And then I think, you know, the other thing really is, and we touched on this a little bit, is the Adele/Richard relationship. Which was really lovely. I mean, at the beginning of the season, Adele leaves him, and at the end of the season, basically, she comes back to him, and I really wanted to give the Chief his wife back. I’m not saying they are back together, but I really wanted to give the Chief his wife back. Because he has been so unsuccessful with the dying of his hair, and the trying to date, and the flirting and having no game, and McSteamy as a wingman, which is just a nasty idea right there for him. He just wasn’t good at it. Jim Pickens is so funny that he pulled all that off, but you just felt for the guy. It was painful. I wanted to see Adele back again. It is also this amazing moment where you realize that she was pregnant, and he’s been going through this entire time thinking she’s been dating someone else, and she wasn’t, it was his, and they lost it and they have no kids. Which also explains what we knew already, the connection he has with Meredith. Meredith firmly denies, but he does exactly what a good Dad would do, which is he just pushes through her ‘you’re not my Dad, you’re not my Dad,’ to a place of centered maturity. But what I really love about Adele and Richard really important for this episode is, this is an episode where we have said ‘there is no freaking fairytale.’ Richard and Adele come together in a way where, after the happy ending crap was supposed to take place, after they were supposed to ride off into the sunset, after they were supposed to be a fairytale ending…..way past that point, when all the crap has hit the fan and everything has gone really bad, you still can have somebody. And there is a mature place of love in there that is really interesting. But I sort of feel it is the real fairytale. I always loved that. And it is very much, going back to what we were talking about before, which is the point,which is you create your own fairytale out of the reality that is with you, not out of somebody else’s idea of what it is, because what are they looking at?[ They are looking at Joe and his partner, with the two babies, which is not the ideal scenario, Joe passed out with an ultrasound, you know, it is like ‘couldn’t handle it,’ but you look at these two men, and they love each other, and they are a family, and they are living their own fairytale. And Adele and Richard are sort of living their own little version of what might be a happy ending for the two of them. And I like it, and it is happy because it is realistic. Which is kind of nice, and I think what…you look at the interns and everybody trying to figure out where they are going, and the attending as well, and you hope they will get to a place where they are happy with what is real for them. That is the most you can hope for. The last thing I want to talk about is my favorite scene in the whole thing, which is the beautiful shot that follows Burke’s empty bedroom, into the living room and Cristina is standing there in that wedding dress, and then we pull back, and she looks like a painting, and she is just standing completely still and then the door opens, and you realize that she is hoping it is Burke. What you realize, more importantly, is that she has been standing there that entire time, figuring out the things that he took with him, like what is missing from the apartment. And you were saying how much you loved that Burke left her with everything. He left her with everything and he only took the things that really meant something special to him, that he needed. But just to him, and he left everything else for her, so she would be okay. I mean, he took his trumpet, and his Eugene Foot albums, his Grandmother’s picture, his scrub cap….and he left her everything else. Which was so lovely and so kind. And yet the fact that you could stand in the middle of the apartment and not realize your partner is gone, unless you knew him well enough to know which of those things were missing. Exactly, and Meredith walks in and says ‘No, he’s not gone. See, look around.’ But if you really look around with the eyes of someone who loves somebody, you see immediately what’s gone, and what’s missing. She sees exactly what’s missing, and it is heartbreaking. And then I love that she says, ‘He’s gone. I’m free. Damn it.’ It is sort of heartbreaking to watch her fall apart and get that dress off. It’s wonderful. And once again, as our season comes to every time, once again what the show comes around to is the love story between these two best friends, Meredith and Cristina. Exactly, and in a weird way, last season was so much about the relationships between the men and the women, and the season finale was about the friends coming together, but also that choice of Meredith’s, you where Burke and Cristina ends up, and this season does end up with these two women, both of whom stood for each other when Meredith drowned, all the way through this last portion where they are together, they are supporting each other and they are each other’s reality. I mean, I got to tell you, we spent a lot of time in the writer’s room using the phrase ‘burn it all down,’ for the end of the season, and I felt really strongly about it, I was like, ‘we have to burn it all down, in order to have somewhere to go that is going to feel fresh, and new, and also just to complete these stories that we started. And I felt really proud when I saw the directors cut of this episode, because we had done it. We had burnt it all to the ground. I also was heartbroken that we had burnt it all to the ground. And I’m sorry, to all of you, but I also felt we did exactly what these characters needed, and where we are going, and it takes us to an even more exciting place. And you know what, at the end of the day these characters are leaving their intern year, and going into the next step. Yeah, I mean, next year they are going to be residents, with interns of their own, and that’s going to be fascinating. And it’s baptism by fire, to a large degree, and very often a part of growing up, because growing up is going through some hideous experiences so you can come out the other end with a little more of a sense of what reality is. So, on that chipper, cheerful note, we are going to leave you for the summer. You take that burn it down theory and you live with it through the summer and enjoy yourselves. What you should do is have a nice summer and get some relaxing in. we are really excited to come back, though, because there is a lot of great stuff in store next season. We have a wonderful plan for season four, a really great plan, and endless podcasts. Which will be awesome. This is Shonda Rhimes, and Betsy Beers, and this is Grey’s Anatomy. Posted: May 19 2007, 04:10 AM - jenlou1986



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oncetherewasaway	Apr 22 2007, 01:51 AM Post #8
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]RECAPS & REVIEWS[/size] Primetime Ratings - Report May 22, 2007 For the week of May 14, 2007 ABC is TV’s Most-Watched Network During the Final Week of the Season and, Excluding the Week of the Oscars, Draws its Largest Audience Since November Net Takes a Strong Second to Fox in the May Sweep in Adults 18-49, ABC’s Best Competitive Position During the Month in 7 Years ABC Airs 8 of the Top 20 TV Shows in Adults 18-49, the Most for Any Net ABC Delivers its Longest Monday Total Viewer Winning Streak in More than 7 Years and its Best with Young Women Since at Least 1991 Thursday’s No. 1 TV Show for ‘06-07 TV Season in Adults 18-49, ABC’s “Grey’s Anatomy” is the Top Show of the Night in Viewers and Young Adults in its Finale “Grey’s Anatomy” (9:00-10:15 p.m.) Thursday’s No. 1 TV show for the ’06-07 season in Adults 18-49, ABC’s “Grey’s Anatomy” was also the top show on the season’s final Thursday in both Total Viewers and Adults 18-49. The season finale of “Grey's Anatomy” topped the No. 2 show of the evening, CBS’ season final e of “C.S.I.” (9:00-10:01 p.m.), by 2.2 mil l ion viewers (22.6 million vs. 20.4 million) and by 47% in Adults 18-49 (9.1/23 vs. 6.2/16). - “Grey’s” attracted its largest audience since March and equaled its top Adult 18-49 rating since February – since 3/15/07 and 2/22/07, respectively. - The ABC medical drama defeated the CBS crime drama in the key Adult 18-49 sales demographic on all 19 of their original match-ups during the season. http://www.abcmedianet.com/DNR/2007/pdf/dnr052207.pdf ABC's dynamic duo triumphant -May 20, 2007, 'Ugly Betty,' 'Anatomy' a powerful pair http://www.variety.com/article/VR111796543...egoryId=14&cs=1 Grey's Boss on "Gizzie," the Dark Finale and Next Fall - May 18, 2007 1:21 PM http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TV...izzie/800015479 Grey’s Gossip - Weekly Update on the dating doctors of Grey’s Anatomy http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14484204/?pg=2...ysAnatomy_CHART Didn't We Almost Have It All - Television Without Pity - recap http://tv.yahoo.com/greys-anatomy/show/did...e5Nc4d9HPqvo9EF Yanging Our Chain - Posted May 18, 2007 The season finale of ''Grey's Anatomy'' is full of intriguing twists: Burke calls off his wedding to Cristina, Derek turns down the big job, and George flunks the intern test http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20039420,00.html Grey's Anatomy: Didn't We Almost Have It All (season finale) - Posted May 18th 2007 (S03E25) For all the negative stuff that's been said about Grey's Anatomy this season, I think they turned out a pretty solid season finale. It made sense, stories ended logically, and let's be honest - it was way better than last season's "prom in a hospital" mess. All the bases were covered. .........(link for cont’d reading) http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/05/18/greys-an...-season-finale/ "Grey's Anatomy" Recap: Episode 24, "Didn't We Almost Have It All" - Fri, 05/18/2007 http://buzzsugar.com/262289 Grey's Anatomy" #3.25 "Didn't We Almost Have It All": Wedding Disaster http://televisionista.blogspot.com/2007/05...lmost-have.html Grey's Anatomy finale depresses its fans - May 18, 2007 http://www.buddytv.com/articles/greys-anat...esses-6675.aspx Grey’s Anatomy Insider “Didn’t We Almost Have it All” Recap, Music, Pictures, Quotes & More http://www.greysanatomyinsider.com/2007/05...uotes-more.html EWonline - TV Watch - Grey Finale Review - May 18, 2007 Yanging Our Chain - The season finale of ''Grey's Anatomy'' is full of intriguing twists: Burke calls off his wedding to Cristina, Derek turns down the big job, and George flunks the intern test http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20039420,00.html 'Grey's' season finale full of heartache - 05/18/2007 http://www.mercurynews.com/celebrities/ci_...?nclick_check=1 Grey's Anatomy Finale To Tie Up Loose Ends - May 16, 2007 http://www.buddytv.com/articles/greys-anat...ie-up-6540.aspx



oncetherewasaway	Apr 22 2007, 01:51 AM Post #9
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION[/size] Phoenix (mythology), a mythical bird that dies in flames and is reborn from the ashes. At the end of its life-cycle the phoenix builds itself a nest of cinnamon twigs that it then ignites; both nest and bird burn fiercely and are reduced to ashes, from which a new, young phoenix arises.The bird was also said to regenerate when hurt or wounded by a foe, thus being almost immortal and invincible — a symbol of fire and divinity. Tears from a phoenix can heal wounds. Grey's Anatomy Wedding Fashion http://www.seenon.com/blog/2007/05/post_47.php [size=7]I know there is a "reasons Derek won't cheat" thread, but let's start a list of things JUST FROM Season 3 that we can point to that say that Derek and Meredith will be OK......Lynn - merdermaid[/size] 1. "I will always show up. Even if I yell. Even if you yell. I will always show up." - merdermaid 2. She's worth it. - Merdertruelove 3. He dove into frigid waters after her. - Merdertruelove 4. The speech he gave to Ellis. - Merdertruelove 5. He was a freakin' wreck when he thought she was dying. - McCookie_Monster 6. Addison to Mark watching Mer and Der after she was revived: "He never felt that way about me."- McCookie_Monster 7. He listens to her breathe.- Merdertruelove 8. She's more important than his job.- Merdertruelove 9. "I'm in love with you. I've been in love with you for...ever." *insert cute bashful smile here- McCookie_Monster 10. He admitted he was wrong for choosing addison. - Merdertruelove 11. Do you want to get married . . . with "Liar" playing in the background.- merdermaid 12. He wanted her to know him.- Merdertruelove 13. She did nothing even near close to "deserving" it (him cheating).- McCookie_Monster 14. "This IS the happily ever after part where the guy is always there, saying things, and the girls love it"- merdermaid 15. He can't see himself in 10 years without her.- Merdertruelove 16. He wants her to let him in.- Merdertruelove 17. After Derek’s “I'm always going to show up ok?” voiceover: We all think we're going to be great. And we feel robbed when our expectations aren't met. But sometimes our expectations sell us short. Sometimes, the expected pales in comparison to the unexpected. You gotta wonder why we cling to our expectations, because the unexpected is just what keeps us steady...standing...still. The expected is just the beginning. The unexpected is what changes our lives. oncetherewasaway 18. Meredith is NOT an affair.- merdermaid 19. Lyrics to "All I Need" by Mat Kearney...McCookie_Monster 20. He's her knight in shining whatever! oncetherewasaway 21. You're not a homewrecker - Merdertruelove 22. Part of the voice over for MFM.- Merdertruelove MVO. Sometimes what you want is exaclty what you need. (This is as they roll and continue the countdown.) 23. How can we forget the countdown.- Merdertruelove 24. Derek walked away, because he felt Finn was a better man, who wouldn't hurt her. He loved her enough to walk away, to save her from the possibility of him hurting her. Now that is love! - jenlou1986 25. He wants to be her wingman - Merdertruelove 26. The bath tub scenes that they're in there together.- Merdertruelove 27. The way they spoon each other.- Merdertruelove 28. The bright and shiney together.- Merdertruelove 29. He can take it slow.- Merdertruelove 30. The way Derek's eyes light up when he sees her, they become so warm. Anyone that can show that much feeling with their eyes does not cheat on their s/o - jenlou1986 31. And who can forget the 'mmmmmm's'! - jenlou1986 32. Epi 1 S3. Derek to George, sitting in the locker room talking about that your life suddenly can change; Derek says: just one moment.....( and then they show the meeting in the bar scene) - DutchMerDerfan 33. Epi 7 S3.. At the end, I want you to know me, please - DutchMerDerfan 34. Nancy: Wow, I've never seen you like this over a girl, even Addison. Derek: I've never been like this over a girl, especially Addison. merdermaid 35. She's not sltty, she's wonderful.- jenlou1986 36. She’s tough. She tries to hide it. She’s difficult. But if you make an effort, she’s worth it. She’s worth the effort.- flipflopmom 37. I am breathing you in.- flipflopmom 38. He says her name like she's the most amazing thing he's ever had in his life (and she is).- McCookie Monster 39. When he said he needed some space. He also said I want us to work!!!- DutchMerDerFan 40. Meredith saying to Derek : Now is not the time to give up on me and he smiled his really love you smile and said Okay !!!! - DutchMerderFan



oncetherewasaway	May 21 2007, 01:50 AM Post #10
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	[size=7]Season Finale Thoughts, Theories, Predictions[/size] [size=7]Fish-isms (Shonda's Metaphorisim)[/size] Posted: May 14 @ 01:25 AM by: Dryfish (815 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Mar 11, 2007 There is a slim chance that 2 attendings might have a different nature: (as I initially thought, based on the fact that IMO Izzie works better with Burke) Derek - Rock Burke - Rope McSunny16 argued that this is might be not right, because Derek is obviously a Rope, he ties to him Mark, Addie, Richard etc. But the best idea from Sunny was this one: If Derek is Rope, then he and Meredith (Rope) can create a nice tied knot. I like Sunny's idea that Derek and Meredith might create a beautiful tie/knot and you see the final scheme in the second post. I agreed with Sunny. We can verify the whole theory when the interns will pick up their specialties. If Cristina picks - Cardio, than our assumption that Burke is Rock is correct. (Fish thinks that there is a chance that Cris might pick a neurosurgery; it's highly controversial). I am not going to discuss it here..there is a thread about possible specialties for the interns; we are really close to find out which specialty Cris will pick (hope before S3 ends?) **If somebody sees this metaphor in a different light, it's more than OK. You might want and offer to us your own theory? [size=7]Foreshadowing[/size] [size=7]Four Climbers[/size] 4th Climber Lonnie. He comes in hypothermic and with an axe in his head and he should be dead already, but he isn't because of the hypothermia, I'm quite sure. Remind you of anyone? Now, we know the interns already didn't leave Meredith behind, like the climbers left Lonnie. So that aspect of the story has been worked. How will this trauma to the head that was intentionally inflected end up being a metaphor? I think it has to speak to Derek in some way.. . The hypothermic, intentionally injured person is just really obvious to me as Meredith (which we knew) and the injuries her parents inflicted on her. It has to help him understand. Lonnie was messed with in the head........and it was an injury inflicted by friends or people he trusted....right now can we call the pic ax Ellis and thatcher....they have both gotten into her head? On second thought the ax represents Thatcher.....and his words your not wanted.(I think it's both parents . . . but Thatcher most poignantly.) Derek soooo better get this metaphor....LOL He better remove the ax and set Mer on her way to healing..... ______________________________ 4 climbers theory: Fish I think it's obvious that 4 climbers are a metaphor for 4 attendings and race for COS.. Addison is out and I don't consider her..Addison is NOT working with other attendings on this case, but Richard does.. The 4 competitors for COS race are: Burke, Derek, Sloan and Richard (Bailey playing for him; Richard doesn’t know yet that he is in). We don't know the full story of the accident yet.. so I think we should wait a bit; But I am ready to say this: --The 4 th climber was injured in his HEAD- I think it's an indication for DEREK. (being a neurosurgeon) --If the 4th climber was hit with an axe by accident, it might mean that Derek's decision to accept the COS might be influenced by accident (by Bay accident). --He was hit with an axe by his BFriend - that's fragging and another indication pointing to DEREK. (Mark betrayed Derek) --If 4th climber refused to go with them and save himself, it could be the last point that Derek refuses to become a Chief. The first round - Tie. They all had equal chances at the beginning. The second round - Burke won. Richard appointed him to be a chief. (Bailey played for Richard). The third round will be the winning one. It's only my speculation..Somebody might see it in different light? at the moment, I see the metaphor between the 4 climbers and the attendings (their race for COS). Attendings being the climbers in their career.. Knowing Shonda & her love for double metaphors and parallels, I think the climbers' case is a metaphor for the interns as well. I need to think on that one a bit longer, because, at the moment, I don't know how to connect 4 climbers and 5 interns. ----need to hear more of the climbers story, but I see the connection between the climbers and the interns in this way: First round - Tie. They all have a good chance to play again. After the LVADgate. Izzie is not playing. Second round - Cristina (Rock) gets a second chance after the Tremorgate. Third round - somebody is out. I think it's George.Izzie sent him to help Meredith. She pulled the rope. Mer passed the exam and George is cut from the program. I am not sure in this spec yet. Seriously. ______________________________ Well I think the climbers represent the interns in the scenario of they started out together but where the climbers left one behind the interns didn't. Also isn't it supposed to be the climbers are all tied together so if one slips they all slip which pretty much is what happens with the interns. Hmm.. if one of the interns really are failing their exam, I'm leaning towards it being Cristina. Everyone seems to be expecting George, and in the last episode Izzie looks to Cristina asking her what to do about Meredith, and Cristina makes the comment about her not knowing, because she doesn't fail - and nor does Meredith. Meredith did fail the first test but was given another shot... but Cristina? ______________________________ I def think its George too. First I thought Izzie but I was thinking way back and remember the Chief told Burke in like the first episode that George barely made it in the program. Ive always got the impression he was the weakest link when it came to stuff like that. He freaks out under pressure ______________________________ At this point, I see the axe in Lonnie's head (4th climber) as symbolic of what Thatcher (and Ellis too) did to Meredith. Derek should be the one to work on him, so it should help this click for him - intentional harm. Especially if it's the speech center that is damaged and Lonnie can't talk and tell what happened. ______________________________ by: merdermaid (993 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Apr 21, 2007 Here is what I said about the 4th climber yesterday. I see the climbers as the interns, not the attendings. They really haven't impacted the attendings or the residents. Hey, I have a 4th Climber Lonnie thought. He comes in hypothermic and with an axe in his head and he should be dead already, but he isn't because of the hypothermia, I'm quite sure. Remind you of anyone? Now, we know the interns already didn't leave Meredith behind, like the climbers left Lonnie. So that aspect of the story has been worked. How will this trauma to the head that was intentionally inflected end up being a metaphor? I think it has to speak to Derek in some way.. . The hypothermic, intentionally injured person is just really obvious to me as Meredith (which we knew) and the injuries her parents inflicted on her. Will it help Derek understand? [size=7]Karma[/size] [size=7]Key Dialogue [/size] Also sex is not the answer. Or do you want a repeat of trailer bad sex? Avoiding the issues will explode it further. In podcast....the phrase ‘sex helps’ was stressed, but it didn’t say it was true or false, we were just told to remember. A lesson for Mer, it doesn’t always help the avoiding talking with each other and avoiding the issues between them _______________________________ I laughed...just sat here and laughed. "I dont keep secrets" HAHAH are u kidding me? I could have sworn he had a wife that he didnt tell Meredith about...Hmmm no? Was I the only one who remembers that HUGE secret that he kept? Could there be a bigger secret to keep from someone?? Im sorry but Derek is just an a$$...hes not even worth it at this point And the scene "we don't keep secrets...I DON'T KEEP SECRETS...." Derek is referring directly to the happenings of the day before! Mer freezing and not telling him and then Thatcher....he is implying he found out about what happened which would have been run of the mill gossip at SGH!!!!! SO, CD---of course the Derek hiding his pain kept Addi a secret but this is the new Derek and in that scene he isn't hiding ANYTHING! _______________________________ Testing 1-2-3 [3.24] Meredith [voiceover]: A surgeon's education never ends. Every patient, every symptom, every operation...is a test. A chance for us to demonstrate how much we know. And how much more we have to learn. Meredith you have still so much to learn about and from Derek and he you. _______________________________ Testing 1-2-3. Seasons 1 ..... Season 2..... Season 3, they have all been quite testing for our couple.... SF, will give the results......pass or fail. I go with pass Oh, one more thought. "Testing 1-2-3" is often a phrase used when testing a microphone or sound system. The person speaks into the microphone and says ...... "testing 123"......to determine if he is being heard by others. It might be said this phrase is being said to both Mer and Derek ...... and Burke and Cris........ these individuals are having trouble with 'reception' of what is being said and/or the broadcasting portion of it :) I rewatched Testing this afternoon.....specifically the end scene with the girl at the bar. Girl : Hi Derek: Hi Girl : Can I buy you a drink? Derek: Woah, you’re forward. Girl : Bad day, I get to be forward today. Derek: Yeah, I’ve had a bad day too. Girl : So.... what do you say, one drink? Derek: Umm, I'm with some friends, it’s a bachelor party, so, I’m gonna....I’m gonna say no. Girl : That’s too bad. Derek: Yeah.......maybe you're right. The way Derek tells the girl no......I think it may mean more to us. Rather than telling the girl he is with friends and decline ...... he states he is at a bachelor party. This is for a reason.....it's not just any bachelor party. I do use alot of words to avoid TTTMNBM. It's THE bachelor party! _______________________________ merdermaid (993 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Apr 21, 2007 This is key: Mama Burke says, "You're selfish and my son is giving. And it's not going to last . . . much longer." Then a scene or two later we see "Mama" and Preston chatting it up. Cris is on the outside looking in. I'm watching 3.2 now . . . Mama Burke is scary. And Derek did NOT get Cris and her concerns . . . We'll see what else stands out. Derek says - twice, that Meredith is not an affair. I always pondered that . . . _______________________________ does it strike you funny these words spoken by Derek Shepherd? "we can be dull and lifeless together." Ladies isn't that what we have seen this entire season? Dull then led to lifeless........ THERE IS HOPE WOMEN OF THE SPEC and DIS THREAD. dull+lifeless=TOGETHER!!!!!!!! Dull and Lifeless together - As long as they are together (I'm going to look for a quote about that that I remember). _______________________________ okay something else just hit me too! how did Mer answer ellis about choosing a specialty? she said she was waiting to be inspired....LOL Hearing Derek tell her to be worried about another woman is all the inspiration she's gonna need.......Full circle [size=7]Metaphors[/size] [size=7]Parallels[/size] [size=7]Percentages [/size] merdermaid (993 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Apr 21, 2007 No it's because of the brain surgeon and his dark and twisty girlfriend that I'm in this state. Ok it's time to be honest how many of us seriously and honestly think things will be ok. At this point, for the reasons I just posted and the overall story, I am at 80% likelihood of a good outcome in the SF (no HUGE cliff). Also, the show loses so much credibility if Mer and Der are broken up - even if Derek as a character has flaws, the KISW aspect is real for him too. So Shonda can't just toss that without pretty much trashing the show. The things in the other 20% are the announcement of Chyler's contract, the need for a cliff, the fact that this is Shonda . . . probably a few other things. I'll have to think about it. They all go more towards the realities of what TV writing is like, not the info we have. Terri, with what you just listed (BRILLIANT!) and what I just came up with , I'm bumping up to 97.5% :) ______________________________________________ oncetherewasaway Lynn I am at a higher percentage than you right now. I'm giving us a 98% degree of likelihood that we will have the TTTMNBM SF. That's just me. Oh, me, looking for a sign...... Testing 1-2-3. Seasons 1 ..... Season 2..... Season 3, they have all been quite testing for our couple.... SF, will give the results......pass or fail. I go with pass ______________________________________________ jenlou1986 (2434 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Apr 01, 2007 Morning girls.....just popping in before I go to work and uni......Someone needs to buddy Angelique should she decide to brave the wilds....if only for my peace of mind...;) Oh, and I'm up to 99% positive....it is looking good!! :) ______________________________________________ Posted: May 13 @ 03:10 PM by: DutchMerDerfan (1188 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Feb 21, 2007 99,9 % ______________________________________________ by: Merdertruelove (2160 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Mar 01, 2007 My percentage is 51%. ______________________________________________ by: Merdertruelove (2160 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Mar 01, 2007 Lisette you would have been so proud. In the last thread a poster came on and said something and I demolished it. Respectfully but I demolished it. Then I gave this whole rant and Terri gave me a standing ovation. I went on to two threads TWO protecting and fighting for Mer/Der. Our Mer/Der that has so much love and symbolism. Who may have many, many, many reasons to break up but even stronger reasons to stay and be together. This weekend I was at 150%. ______________________________________________ GraveDance (443 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Feb 08, 2006 Hey ladies! Sorry I've been MIA all weekend, with my parents anniversary party (which was a blast) and Mother's Day I've been kept busy. So about percentages about Mer/Der being okay... I'm probably about 70% that we're going to get a happy conclusion at the end of the season. How happy I'm not sure, but happy. The other 30% is me thinking that it's going to be a cliffy....we won't be sure if they work through it or not...like they fight and one walks away....or they're just left looking at each other or something. ______________________________________________ by: knappmom3 (1898 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Mar 09, 2007 Derek did seem to take eons in decision making but at the end of Where the Boys Are he showed up and DECIDED he needed her more than he needed space. From that moment in the bar he was with her all the way even through celibacy and crossword puzzles and near knitting. etc I'm 95% sure we will have a great outcome. I think it will be cliffy but honestly was Finn a real cliff? So, of course it will set up the question to carry us into the next season. I would love for us NOT to hinge on a MEr der cliff but THEY are the hook of the show and I don't know if Shonda has the guts to end a season without a true cliff for them, yaknow? IT will always open and close with MEr because it is Grey's anatomy ______________________________________________ jenlou1986 (2435 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Apr 01, 2007 I am 99.9% sure we will have a good ending....but the chances are high that it will be a cliffhanger......however, I firmly believe it will be a positive cliffhanger......I am so far off the ledge, I have left the freaking building!!!!!! :) [size=7]Predictions[/size] Posted: May 15 @ 06:08 AM by: McDreamysFan (654 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Aug 20, 2006 HI ladies, I just posted this on our Judy Dolls Thread, but I thought you might like a vision to squee for also, at least Mer/Der Shippers...here is goes: ___________________________________________ Okay, very quietly, I think I have the cliff-hanger moment down...you may squee just like me in a couple of minutes...here it is: We think (as in we, I mean you and me), think that some of the actions/speculations surrounding Mer/Der will end in either a real or symbolic wedding/marriage. I have been formulating in my mind images of weddings, symbols, etc., and you know I am a believer that there will be some sort of "metaphorical" exchanging of vows with some real symbolism to give us clues, like "chuppah, broken glass and yichud". Now I am going to propose (again no pun intended) that there will be a "real" Mer/Der wedding, or exchange of vows and here's why: The way the seasons end ofr Mer/Der, like you have said, they really end with shockers for Mer/Der alike... 1. Addison shows up, "Hi. I'm Addison Shephard. You must be the woman who has been screwing my husband."...then the famous mousy, "Shephard?" from Meredith. 2. Stolen moment prom s.ex, "Meredith, what does this mean?" 3. This time, they know what this means. If they get into a marriage it is because he asks her and there are no problems, impulsive, yes, but this makes sense for a variety of reasons, the main one being, that they tried to make sure there relationship was not based on s exual impluse (waiting to have s ex), trying not to be implulsive, but maybe in the end implusive works better for them... Okay, all that said...get ready to squee, picture this: Meredith and Derek get married in some fashion (don't ask me how, where, etc.), exchange vows, go to yichud, mind blowing yichud (why not this is my fantasy, LOL). We see them come into work the next morning. They kiss and separate. Derek at nurses station. Woman from bar comes up to Derek. Shocked to see him there, a flash comes aross his face, he recognizes her... She says, "oh, hi", peeks at his lab coat and says "Dr. Shephard" and he says "hi". She says, "my name is Lexie Grey", kind of flirty, but trying her best focusing on the task at hand, "Do you know Meredith Grey?". Meredith walks up just then and smiles at Derek and Lexie and says, "It's Shephard, actually, I'm Meredith Shephard , how can I help you?" Screen goes to black. *shhhhh, yeah, I said it* Just Meredith saying those words out loud would make me squeee!!!!! _______________________________________ Posted: May 13 @ 10:48 AM by: merdermaid (967 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Apr 21, 2007 Here are my reasons that I think Meredith and Derek won't be on the cliff at the end of the SF: 1.AvaRebecca having her husband come back and each of them realizing they were wrong about why the other was acting the way they were (He didn't look for me. She didn't want me.) and that this misunderstanding was causing the breakdown (not that there aren't other issues to work on) gives me the MOST HOPE for a good season end for Meredith and Derek. 2. So far the pattern is to end the season with a switch of directions for Meredith and Derek - they need to come together to switch directions. 3. Shonda and Betsy admit that things have been rather brutal for Meredith. 4. Too much as been made about "knowing" when the bride walks down the aisle. It's Derek who has the decision point right now. Meredith needs to make changes, but she's still committed to him. 5. Izzie Derek Karma wheel 6. Allan H says at the end of the blog that the writers are looking at how far the characters have come this season . . . and Derek wouldn't have come far if he was still taking time or dating someone else. Meredith would have come a little way -but not a long way - if she can't connect with Derek. 7. In the chit chat at the end of the podcast (the part we don't transcribe), Betsy says they'll tell us everything next week because there will be no more secrets. I take that as Meredith and Derek being together in a more committed way, or else there would be secrets. 8. Terry's brilliant catch of the bachelor party and then the tp bride being Mer. 9. Savvy's road map about dull, lifeless season (add something here, Savvy, because I'm not recapping well). [size=7]Rock, Paper, Scissors,Glue, Rope – metaphor [/size] Posted: May 14 @ 01:15 AM by: Dryfish (810 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Mar 11, 2007 Rock, Paper, Scissors, Glue, Rope –metaphor. (RPSGR) I came with this idea in S&D thread.. Some ppl didn't get at first, so I tried to summarize it again in this thread. This metaphor was given to us in epi. 324 –it represents the dynamics of all relationships on GA and gives an idea of who these characters are in their nature. The writers provided 3 significant clues for us – in a way, they ‘attached’ some meanings to the certain characters. Izzie called George – Glue. Meredith is the one that changes (pulls) the score of the exam for all interns; also she obviously ties all the interns together, so she is Rope. Balie pointed to Burke during the second round and said “Rock”. * Bailey played “rock, paper, scissors” with 3 attendings.. Before we assign every element to the characters, we need to employ some abstract thinking. Which element (from the list of 5) works the best with others? Rock – Rope Paper – Scissors, Glue Scissors – Paper, Rope Glue – works with all elements well, but particularly with Paper Rope – Rock, Scissors *They all also work well with themselves: rock with rock, paper with paper etc. Now we can assign the elements to the characters. One way to do it is by keeping in mind which character is working with whom well (for example: we all know Mer+Cris = best friends) Interns: Izzie – scissors (hint: cut the lvad-wire) George -glue Alex - paper Cristina - rock Meredith – rope Attendings: Addie – paper - OB/Gyn- neonatal surgeon Derek – rope - neurosurgeon Burke – rock - cardiothoracic surgeon Sloan – scissors – plastic surgeon Richard – glue – general surgeon see next post Posted: May 14 @ 01:15 AM by: Dryfish (810 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Mar 11, 2007 cont. from previous post: Now we can draw a table of dynamics between the interns and attendings (keeping in mind the abstract thinking): Addie - paper => Izzie - sciss; George -glue; Alex - paper Derek - rope => Mer- rope; Cris – rock; Izzie – sciss. Burke -rock => Cris - rock; Mer - rope Sloane - sciss => Alex- paper; Mer - rope; Izzie - sciss. Richard – glue => works well with all characters, but particularly with George – glue, Alex – paper. (George isn’t the glue that holds all the interns, in this metaphor Glue means the communication, the ability to connect well with other elements/characters. Richard and Bailey are also ‘glue’ at SGH, no wonder both of them like George. George communicates well with the entire hospital, just like Bailey and Richard. Nurses just love George). This metaphor also tells us who the interns are by their nature. We know now what specialty they should pick, by looking at their abstract nature Cris is a cardion Goddess Mer is a neuro Geek Izzie is a plastic Queen Alex is an OB/Gyn Neonatal King George is a general surgeon (if he stays at SGH) Apparently, George has a potential to become a chief of surgery in the future, he connects well with all ppl at SGH. [size=7]Video/Song Indicators[/size] [size=7]Wedding Party - Cathy[/size]



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