5.08 These Ties That Bind

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5.08 These Ties That Bind; November 13, 2008 (sweeps)
Topic Started: Sep 20 2008, 12:51 PM (296 Views)
oncetherewasaway	Sep 20 2008, 12:51 PM Post #1
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	It's intense what happens in the OR when lives are on the line and you are poking at brains like it is silly putty. You form a bond with the surgeons right next to you. An unbreakable, undesirable bond. It is intimate being tied together like that whether you like them or not you become family. The Ties that bind us are sometimes impossible to explain. They connect us even after it seems like the ties should be broken. Some bonds defy,distance, time and logic. 5.08 – These Ties That Bind ABC PRESS RELEASE Monday, October 27, 2008ABC Television ONE OF MEREDITH'S OLDEST FRIENDS BECOMES AN INTERN AT SEATTLE GRACE, CAUSING TURMOIL AT THE HOSPITAL AND IN MER'S PERSONAL LIFE, ON ABC'S "GREY'S ANATOMY" Guest Starring Kevin McKidd ("Rome") as Owen Hunt and Melissa George ("Alias," "In Treatment") as Sadie Also Guest Starring Academy Award (r)-nominated Actress Mary McDonnell ("Passion Fish," "Battlestar Gallactica") "These Ties That Bind" - One of Meredith's oldest friends, Sadie, becomes an intern at Seattle Grace, but Mer's friends are less-than-welcoming to her; Lexie leads her fellow interns in secretive, unorthodox surgical training sessions; and a new surgeon, Virginia Dixon, brings rules and order to the OR, on "Grey's Anatomy," THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 13 (9:00-10:01 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network "Grey's Anatomy" stars Ellen Pompeo as Meredith Grey, Patrick Dempsey as Derek Shepherd, Sandra Oh as Cristina Yang, Katherine Heigl as Isobel "Izzie" Stevens, Justin Chambers as Alex Karev, T.R. Knight as George O'Malley, Chandra Wilson as Miranda Bailey, James Pickens, Jr. as Richard Webber, Sara Ramirez as Callie Torres, Eric Dane as Mark Sloan, Chyler Leigh as Lexie Grey and Brooke Smith as Erica Hahn. Guest stars TBD. "These Ties That Bind" was written by Stacey McKee and directed by Eric Stoltz. http://www.abcmedianet.com/assets/pr%5Chtml/102708_08.html GREY'S ANATOMY - "These Ties That Bind" - One of Meredith's oldest friends, Sadie, becomes an intern at Seattle Grace, but Mer's friends are less-than-welcoming to her; Lexie leads her fellow interns in secretive, unorthodox surgical training sessions; and a new surgeon, Harriet Dixon, brings rules and order to the OR, on "Grey's Anatomy," THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 13 (9:00-10:01 p.m., ET) http://abcmedianet.com/web/showpage/showpage.aspx?typecode=ph&global_id=001799&type=asset Grey's Anatomy Episode: These Ties That Bind Sadie, one of Meredith's oldest friends, becomes an intern at Seattle Grace; Lexie leads her fellow interns in unorthodox, secretive surgical training; a new surgeon brings rules and order to the OR http://www.wchstv.com/schedule/schedule21.shtml November 13, 2008 (sweeps) — 5.08 These Ties That Bind "These Ties That Bind" - One of Meredith's oldest friends, Sadie, becomes an intern at Seattle Grace, but Mer's friends are less-than-welcoming to her; Lexie leads her fellow interns in secretive, unorthodox surgical training sessions; and a new surgeon, Harriet Dixon, brings rules and order to the OR, on "Grey's Anatomy," THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 13 http://www.abcmedianet.com/web/display/display_item.aspx?item=ph/htm/114325_743.htm confirmation from wshstv won’t be available until Friday morning I believe Edited by oncetherewasaway, Jan 9 2009, 08:42 PM.



oncetherewasaway	Sep 20 2008, 12:52 PM Post #2
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	CREDITS Written by: Stacey McKee Directed by:Eric Stolz Grey's Anatomy (TV series) - Director (1 episode) Episode #5.4 - Director Eric Stoltz: From a Blank Slate to Caprica and Grey's - Sep 8, 2008 5:07 PM ...................................He also is directing an episode of Grey's Anatomy, which he deems "a more massive undertaking" than, say, his previous behind-the-camera work on Boston Legal and Law & Order. "It's the difference between driving a bus and riding a bike — and on that bus are 17 unbelievably talented people," he says. "[Grey's] is an embarrassment of riches. It's quite mad, in a delightful way." Stoltz, of course, is not at liberty to divulge what his Grey's episode entails, but he will say this: "It is really wonderfully character-driven, featuring a lot of people falling in and out of love." (Awwww....) "I'm very happy with the way it's going." — Matt Mitovich http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TV...views/800046309 Edited by oncetherewasaway, Nov 10 2008, 02:07 AM.



oncetherewasaway	Sep 20 2008, 12:52 PM Post #3
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	GUEST STARS Grey's Anatomy Mary McDonnell Featurette http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIRm-vkqEo0 McMajor is permanently admitted to Grey's Anatomy - Nov 11th 2008 http://www.tvsquad.com/2008/11/11/mcmajor-is-permanently-admitted-to-greys-anatomy/ Kevin McKidd Joins the Cast of Grey’s Anatomy - November 11, 2008 http://tvwatch.people.com/2008/11/11/kevin-mckidd-joins-the-cast-of-greys-anatomy/ Thursday, November 13, 2008ABC Television KEVIN McKIDD JOINS THE CAST OF ABC'S "GREY'S ANATOMY" Actor Kevin McKidd ("Rome," "Journeyman") has joined the cast of ABC's popular drama "Grey's Anatomy." McKidd first appeared as Major Owen Hunt in this season's premiere episode of "Grey's Anatomy," titled "Dream a Little Dream of Me." Hunt has joined the staff of Seattle Grace Hospital as the head of trauma surgery, after serving as a top military field surgeon in Iraq. An established star of film, television and theatre, the Scottish actor has made a name for himself playing such varied roles as a doomed drug addict in "Trainspotting," a brooding Caesar-era soldier in HBO's "Rome" and a time-traveling journalist in last year's NBC drama, "Journeyman." McKidd recently co-starred alongside his "Grey's Anatomy" co-star, Patrick Dempsey, and Michelle Monaghan in the 2008 film romantic comedy, "Made of Honor." McKidd has wrapped production on "Bunraku," starring alongside Josh Harnett, Demi Moore, Woody Harrelson and Ron Perlman. In the drama he plays a virulent criminal who terrorizes a town. Other film credits include "Hannibal Rising," "Kingdom of Heaven," "De-Lovely" and "Sixteen Years of Alcohol," for which he was nominated for Best Actor at the British Independent Film Awards. Born and raised in Scotland, McKidd was a member of the Moray Youth Theatre. He became involved in the Bedlam Theatre Company while he was a student at the University of Edinburgh, and it was there that he decided to pursue acting full-time, landing his first leading role in the Wild Cat Theatre Company-produced stage play, "The Silver Darlings," for which he won the Gulliver Award. McKidd currently resides in Los Angeles with his family. http://www.abcmedianet.com/assets/pr%5Chtml/111308_01.html Meet the Three New Grey's Anatomy Docs - Nov 3, 2008 Kevin McKidd's Dr. Owen Hunt (that's "McArmy" to me) made his return to Grey's Anatomy in the most recent episode, but he's far from the only new doctor we'll be seeing around Seattle Grace this year. In fact, three female docs will be joining the cast in the coming weeks, staying for at least three episodes each — and possibly longer. Want to meet the newbies? Sadie Played by Melissa George of Alias, Sadie makes her first appearance in the Nov. 13 episode of Grey's. She's an old friend of Meredith's and a new intern in Seattle who ruffles some feathers among Mere's resident friends. She's bisexual, and she's a character who likes to walk on the wild side. She also has some big secret with Meredith. Huh, think they killed a guy? She'll be around for at least four episodes. Dr. Virgina Dixon Mary McDonnell of Battlestar Galactica steps in starting Nov. 13 as a cardiac surgeon who comes in to help fill the hole left by Preston Burke. (I thought that was Erica Hahn's job?) She's incredibly skilled in the OR, but socially, it's another story: She has Asperger's syndrome, which makes interacting with people a challenge. I'm curious to see how Grey's handles this character and issue; so far, McDonnell says there's no romance in Virgina's future, but that may depend on how long she sticks around. She's signed on for three episodes for now. Dr. Arizona Robbins What a name, huh? Starting later this season, Jessica Capshaw (of The L Word and The Practice) will join the Seattle Grace team as a pediatrician who "winds up butting heads with Dr. Bailey" when she's called to consult on a case. She's also signed on for three episodes, though the LA Times reports that could turn into more. So, what do you think? Too many new characters — or just the right amount of fresh blood? And which character do you think has the best chance of sticking around long-term? http://buzzsugar.com/2463431 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Ausiello Files - Oct 21, 2008 Question: Any good Grey's Anatomy scoop? -- Emily Ausiello: Yup, and you're gonna want a hanky when it comes to pass, I have a hunch. The show is casting an 8-10-year-old male patient who wants to live but is realistic about his prospects of doing so. (In other words, he's only gonna last three episodes.) Question: I will give you ten scoops of Smurf ice cream if you can tell me when Cristina's amazingly awesome army doctor is coming back to Grey's Anatomy! -- Brittany Ausiello: Kevin McKidd returns briefly this Thursday, and then in full force next week. Speaking of air dates, please note that Melissa George's bisexual intern debuts on Nov. 13, not Nov. 6 as I stated last week. In my defense, bisexuality confuses me. http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/10/ask-ausiello--2.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Grey's' newest doc is named Dixon, plus good Kevin McKidd McNews There are 85 days left until "Battlestar Galactica" returns (yes, I am counting the days). Fortunately, we won’t have to wait that long to see Mary McDonnell again. McDonnell, who plays Laura Roslin on "Battlestar" (pictured at left), has a new gig on "Grey’s Anatomy," as I reported a few weeks ago. She'll make her "Grey's" debut Nov. 13. Her character is a doctor named Virginia Dixon, and she’ll appear on “Grey’s” about three or four times this season, according to the network. Dixon faces a formidable task at Seattle Grace Hospital: She is a surgeon who will do her best to bring “rules and order to the OR” according to ABC. Who better than McDonnell to play a woman faced by a daunting challenge? She’s faced down Cylon armadas, so flirty docs should be no big deal. In any case, the actress’ “Grey’s” nickname stands at the ready: Some of McDonnell’s “Battlestar” fans nicknamed her “Mary McAwesome” years ago. The “Grey’s” casting folks have also tapped some “Alias” veterans as well: Carl Lumbly from that show will appear in Thursday’s episode, which has the Seattle Grace docs performing “domino surgeries,” or procedures that must be done in sequence. "Alias" alum Melissa George (seen most recently in HBO’s “In Treatment”) joins the show Nov. 13 as well. She’ll be in 11 episodes this season as an intern named Sadie who happens to be an old friend of Meredith’s. At first Mer’s friends are not very welcoming to her (what a shocker!). Because these things matter on “Grey’s,” you should know that Sadie is bisexual. There’s good news regarding the newest resident hunk on “Grey’s.” Kevin McKidd (pictured at right) will briefly reappear as military surgeon Owen Hunt in Thursday’s episode, and he’ll be in a lot of episodes from then on. There’s a decent chance the actor will become a series regular. Between that and the casting of McDonnell, I’ll have lots of McReasons to tune in. http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/10/greys-anatomy.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mary full of Grace - October 24, 2008 Before I begin, let us get this out of the way: No, Grey’s Anatomy is not science fiction. Grey’s Anatomy is as far removed from science fiction as a Biography on Abraham Lincoln. So this is not an article about Grey’s Anatomy. This is however, an article about Mary McDonnell. Allow me to elaborate. Within the walls of Seattle Grace Hospital there’s Dr. Mark “McSteamy” Sloan (Eric Dane), who invokes images of a steam room occupied with the likes of Brad Pitt, George Clooney and Gerard Butler (to name a few), and Dr. Derek “McDreamy” Shepherd (Patrick Dempsey), who just makes me think about ice cream. Both men have been known to make women swoon whilst deeply enthralled with the drama that is Grey’s Anatomy. Well move over boys, because Seattle Grace is about to get a checkup with Dr. “McAwesome” (so christened by Maryfangirls all over the net). Mary McDonnell is to scifi geeks what Bill Gates is to techno geeks. She made hackers swoon in Sneakers. She made robot junkies want to build electric barbarella’s in Mumford. She was the only character worth remembering in Independence Day. And she was…wait for it…Rose Darko. The Rose Darko. But for the past 5 years, Mary McDonnell has been carving a place in the science fiction pantheon as President Laura Roslin. However, like every Battlestar Galactica fan knows, loving BSG comes with a price. Waiting. If the last hiatus did nothing to quell the hunger for more BSG, than this hiatus our hunger should be satiated by the news that Mary McDonnell will star in Grey’s Anatomy come this November. Dr. Virginia “McAwesome” Dixon, comes to Seattle Grace to restore some order. Something Mary McDonnell is all too familiar with. After all, she’s been the President of the 12 Colonies of Kobol, so if anyone can keep the doctors at SG in check, it’s her. I’m not a Grey’s Anatomy fan. I have no idea what’s going on or who’s who, but I will be watching come November 13th, when Mary McDonnell makes her first (of many) appearance, because what the world needs besides more doctors is more great women. I think Mary McDonnell will fill that role quite nicely. http://www.examiner.com/x-1413-Boston-Sci-Fi-Examiner~y2008m10d24-Mary-full-of-Grace Edited by oncetherewasaway, Nov 21 2008, 11:30 AM.



oncetherewasaway	Sep 20 2008, 12:52 PM Post #4
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	SPOILERFIX SPOILAGE Updated on November 8, 2008 Grey's Anatomy airs on Thursdays at 9 p.m. Episodes 5.08: These Ties That Bind Airdate: November 13, 2008 * 11/06 - A female patient named Natalie wants to leave the hospital because she'll get fired from her job at a bar if she misses any more shifts. As the doctor taking care of her fixes a bandage before she goes, he notices that Natalie has many scars. Natalie also tells the male doctor that she's been flirting with him all day and that he should have reciprocated. Source: SpoilerFix.com * 11/04 - Melissa [George] came on to the show as a bisexual character and love interest for Callie, but a reliable insider tells me, "They changed the script and now she isn't. She starts off flirting with Callie but it never goes anywhere." Source: Kristin on E!Online * 10/30 - Mary McDonnell reveals: In her first surgery [Dr. Virginia Dixon] works primarily with Bailey and Karev, who are both sort of caught off guard by her difficulty in communication. They don't really know until the end of the episode that she has Asperger's. It's challenging for them. Source: The Ausiello Files * 10/27 - One of Meredith's oldest friends, Sadie, becomes an intern at Seattle Grace, but Mer's friends are less-than-welcoming to her; Lexie leads her fellow interns in secretive, unorthodox surgical training sessions; and a new surgeon, Harriet Dixon, brings rules and order to the OR. Source: ABC * 10/27 - When Melissa George debuts as Seattle Grace's latest bisexual intern, we'll learn that she has a history with -- holy lipstick lesbians! -- Meredith . Needless to say, Derek is very anxious to find out the exact nature of their history (were they friends without benefits or with benefits?), and (presumably) whether or not it can be repeated. Source: The Ausiello Files * 09/28 - Sources confirm that ex-Alias vixen Melissa George is in final negotiations to join the cast of Grey's Anatomy as an intern with, um, an open mind toward sexuality. To wit, I'm told she's being groomed as a potential love interest for one of Grey's other two burgeoning bis, Callie or Erica. Source: The Ausiello Files * 09/28 - Mary McDonnell is in advanced talks to join the drama for a multi-episode guest arc, confirms ABC. Source: Kristin on E!Online * 09/28 - Clay: Male, Native American Navajo, mid 20s, patient in the hospital. Nelson: Male, Native American Navajo, 50s - 70s, English is not his 1st language, accompanies Clay in the hospital. Timothy:Male, All Ethnicities, 60s - 70s, drifter. Source: SpoilerTV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by oncetherewasaway, Nov 8 2008, 08:24 PM.



oncetherewasaway	Sep 20 2008, 12:52 PM Post #5
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	SCOOP-AGE & OTHER TRICKSTERS The Ausiello Files --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ask or Watch with Kristen Watch with Kristin video - November 10, 2008 Have a case of the Mondays? Never fear—the Watch With Kristin show is here! This week, I ventured to the set of Brothers & Sisters for the latest on those crazy Walkers. I've also got the juicy details on Chuck's same-sex kiss...plus, Cristine Rose dishes that Sylar and Peter are twins, and a familiar face may return to Grey's Anatomy! http://spoilertv-greysanatomy.blogspot.com/2008/11/watch-with-kristin-video.html --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ET ---- E!Online --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- Edited by oncetherewasaway, Nov 21 2008, 11:27 AM.



oncetherewasaway	Sep 20 2008, 12:53 PM Post #6
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	SIDES & SUMMARIES ------------------------------------------------------------ Episode 5.08 - These Ties That Bind - Casting Sides - 19-Sep-2008 Here are 3 more casting sides for Episode 5.08 which is called "These Ties That Bind" [CLAY] Male, Native American Navajo, mid 20s, patient in the hospital...GUEST STAR [NELSON] Male, Native American Navajo, 50s - 70s, English is not his 1st language, accompanies CLAY in the hospital...GUEST STAR [TIMOTHY] Male, All Ethnicities, 60s - 70s, drifter...GUEST STAR http://spoilertv-greysanatomy.blogspot.com...ttle-heart.html ------------------------------------------------------------ Episode 5.08 - Casting Side - 15-Sep-2008 http://www.scribd.com/doc/6041321/Natalie ------------------------------------------------------------ One casting side out for 5.08. Here is my summary: Natalie - described as "confident, sexy, reckless". She has been injured (has a bandaged arm) and appears to want to leave - she pulls out her IV. She is proudly showing off all her scars from her "reckless" behaviours/activities - extreme sports/ fights/drunken brawls. The doctor treating her, I am assuming is male (but could be female), is grossed out. Natalie tells doctor he is shy and accuses him of being cooped up in this hospital and has not developed any "social" skills - cause she has been "hitting on" him. He has not responded - whether not interested or did not know it was flirting is not clear; also not clear if the reason Natalie is leaving is because she is not having any success with him. But he tells Natialie "we're out of here" after she tells him about hitting on him and he has bee cooped up too long. There is only one set of sides so far. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Natalie - Scene 1 INT. HOSPITAL ROOM – NIGHT Dr. Hill: Natalie: Dr. Hill arrives to find Natalie ---- confident, sexy, a little reckless — standing next to her bed. She has a bloody bandage wrapped around her arm. Dr. Hill: What are you doing? Natalie: Leaving. Dr. Hill: You can’t. Natalie: I have to get back to the bar. They’ll fire me if I miss any more shifts. Natalie pulls the IV out of her arm, wincing slightly. Dr. Hill: At least let me bandage you up. Natalie: I can do it myself. Dr. Hill: Stand still. Dr. Hill starts to tend to Natalie and notices a gnarly scar on her arm. Dr. Hill: How’d do you get that? Natalie: Snowboarding. I took off from a jump that turned out to be more of a cliff and busted my arm. Bone sticking out of the skin, blood all over the snow .... it was hot. Dr. Hill: And that? Natalie goes through her vast collection of scars. Natalie: Rafting trip. Fender bender. Natalie: fight with my sister when we were six, I won. Dancing on tequila. Darts on tequila. Sex on tequila. Outdoor sex on tequila ..... Dr. Hill swallows, Natalie pleases with herself. Natalie: Point is, I’m not a secret cutter. I get bored and try new things. Things a normal person probably should’t try. You get it, right? It’s why you became a doctor. The chance to cut people open, inflict pain on the innocent .... It can’t all be sprained ankles and homeless drunks. Dr. Hill: Well, we do get the occasional barfight victim. Natalie: It wasn’t a fight. More like a discussion that turned a little ... messy. And who knows, maybe it was worth it. Natalie eyes Dr. Hill, who quickly looks away. Natalie: Cute. Dr. Hill: What? Natalie: You’re shy. Dr. Hill: I’m not. Natalie: No? Because I been hitting on you all day and you’ve barely flinched. Which is fine. You’ve spent your formative years cooped up in some sad hospital and have no social skills as a result. Next time though? When a hot wounded girl walks int your ER and hits on you, you should really hit on her back. Dr. Hill: I think we’re done here. Dr. Hill gathers the bandages. Natalie leans forward. Natalie: Look, I get off at 2. If you decide you want to get out of this place and I don’t know, try something new .... I get off at 2. Natalie gives Dr. Hill one last look before walking out. Edited by oncetherewasaway, Nov 8 2008, 07:14 PM.



oncetherewasaway	Sep 20 2008, 12:53 PM Post #7
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	SNEAK PEEKS & PROMOS & PHOTOS & VIDEOS SNEAK PEEKS Grey's Anatomy Sneak Peek 5.08 - (1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsNzURTgwqI Grey's Anatomy Sneak Peek 5.08 - (2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCTOfSbbxnA Grey's Anatomy Sneak Peek 5.08 - (3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAtCXFe_yR4 Grey's Anatomy Sneak Peek 5.08 - (4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEhkTln1ZN4 Grey's Anatomy Sneak Peek 5.08 - (5) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16sWIHiGSLo http://spoilertv-greysanatomy.blogspot.com/2008/11/episode-508-these-ties-that-bind-5.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- PROMOS Episode 5.08 - These Ties That Bind - CTV Promo- Nov 07, 2008 http://spoilertv-greysanatomy.blogspot.com/2008/11/episode-508-these-ties-that-bind-ctv.html Episode 5.08 - These Ties That Bind - Promo ABC- November 07, 2008 http://spoilertv-greysanatomy.blogspot.com/2008/11/episode-508-these-ties-that-bind-promo.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- PHOTOS GREY'S ANATOMY - "These Ties That Bind" - One of Meredith's oldest friends, Sadie, becomes an intern at Seattle Grace, but Mer's friends are less-than-welcoming to her; Lexie leads her fellow interns in secretive, unorthodox surgical training sessions; and a new surgeon, Harriet Dixon, brings rules and order to the OR, on "Grey's Anatomy," THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 13 (9:00-10:01 p.m., ET) http://abcmedianet.com/web/showpage/showpage.aspx?typecode=ph&global_id=001799&type=asset Large format http://spoilertv-greysanatomy.blogspot.com/2008/10/episode-508-these-ties-that-bind.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- YOUTUBE VIDEOS Edited by oncetherewasaway, Nov 21 2008, 11:33 AM.



oncetherewasaway	Sep 20 2008, 12:53 PM Post #8
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	SONG TITLE REFERENCE & LYRICS ~ EPISODE PLAYLIST Title These Ties That Bind Written by: Rj Cowdery (c) 2007 Looking through these pages of my history Got my finger on a picture a much younger me I was thinner there had long black hair no worries no cares I was only trying to find out who I was What path I'd take what life I'd lead would I become just another girl getting lost in this big old world Mama used to tell me girl you're strong Don't get pushed around much and you'll get along just fine Remember this and I know you'll shine I've got everything that I should need Love and light of my family We take our time making up our minds But we hold down these ties that bind There's movers and there's shakers And folks like me Just working for their families to make ends meet We tow the line punching in until the day we die Looking through these pages I realize you get back what you give in life so you decide if you want to be in a cage or running free I've got everything that I should need Love and light of my family We take our time making up our minds But we hold down these ties that bind So hold on to what's important hold on so dear Don't make yourself so crazy about the things you fear to come Does it matter when this day is done. I've got everything that I should need Love and light of my family We take our time making up our minds But we hold down these ties that that bind (c) Rj Cowdery 2007 http://www.sonicbids.com/epk/epk.aspx?epk_id=38314&poll_id=&name=music&skin_id=21&osk=&primary=9966CC&secondary=3300FF&btn=FF9933&btnh=99CC99 http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=99195640 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Playlist ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by oncetherewasaway, Nov 10 2008, 02:39 AM.



oncetherewasaway	Sep 20 2008, 12:54 PM Post #9
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	PODCAST Grey's Anatomy Official Podcast: 11/17/08 Published: 11/16/2008 Duration: 27:22 Shonda & Betsy chat about These Ties That Bind as we get ready to plunge into The Midnight Hour (11/20/08 @ 9pm) The interns start a fight club. Death and Die reunite. And Denny is back, kind of. All that and more on the special double sized edition of the official Grey’s Anatomy podcast. Hello everyone and welcome back. We may have been gone for a week but that’s okay because executive producers Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers are here with us to gush about the last two episodes, Rise Up and These Ties That Bind which means a whole lotta talk about a whole lotta things, including Denny, Denny and more Denny. They’ll also hint out what happens in our next episode, In the Midnight Hour, which airs this coming Thursday November 20th at 9 p.m. on ABC and is available the next day at abc.com. Here now are Shonda and Betsy. Hi, hello, it’s Betsy and Shonda and this is Grey’s Anatomy. Grey’s Anatomy. Wow it’s been a little while, it’s been a little while. We haven’t actually done this for a for a couple weeks, have we? We’ve been kinda busy. We’ve been kinda busy, making shows, running around making shows. Occasionally eating lunch. And voting. By the way we voted! We voted! And look what happened! Look what happened! There’s some voting, there’s some change. And democracy occurred in a great ways and places and which is really pretty incredible and there was a better turnout ever than in history of like since Lincoln or something crazy. Which I like to take credit for. So if anybody has stories about meeting cute guys at the polls. Did you meet any cute guys at the polls Shonda? I did, but then after having a long conversation then a woman showed up and it turn out to be his wife. It was awkward. And by the way if there are recounts or revotes in any of your states don’t forget to vote. Vote more. Vote often. As much as you can. So we were busy voting. And you were busy writing like a maniac, so we didn’t have a chance to talk to you about Rise Up, which I think was just a phenomenal episode. Yeah, this is the episode where Erica Hahn faced with her patient who lost a heart to Denny Duquette ends up walking away from the hospital. It’s this horrible moment that you sorta realize with Izzie when the patient shows up, I remember when I first read the script I dawned on me on the same pace it dawned on Izzie who this guy was. This sort of horrible haunting moment of actually facing this horrible thing from the past and also the first time you really, really understand the investment that Hahn had in this guy because she was actually willing to take down the whole hospital in order to defend her patient. The episode called Rise Up for a reason. I love that all these old issues rise up metaphorically and literally Denny is walking down the hallway. And its great to sort of have those moments there and then have it come alive. See Denny again is just pretty great but also slightly creepy. Slightly creepy. What’s he wearing? What’s he wearing? You know, if you watch the show carefully when Denny died he was wearing a hospital gown. When he came back to talk to Meredith in season 3 he was wearing black sweat pants and t-shirt and I think like flipflops or something which he found uncomfortable. I believe that’s correct. And so when he came back this time, he said “Can I change my clothes”? At first I said no. And then he made kind of a charmingly compelling argument for why he should be able to change his clothes. Because he’s the one that pointed out to me he died in a hospital gown it’s not like he’s walking around in the clothes he died in, he obviously changed his clothes after Meredith drowned herself, like where’d he get those clothes. He’s like, “Come on, a guy can change his clothes every once in a while.” And it was very sweet and very compelling and he hugged me when he asked and so I let him change his clothes. On a side note I can add to this is, he wouldn’t even have to ask, he just has to stand there and make Denny eyes at you and the bottom line is you would have put him in a divers suit if he asks for it is my guess. I tried to find a way to get him in a tuxedo because I always thought oh my god!. I really want to see Denny in formal wear. That was your marriage fantasy. Jeffrey Dean Morgan is a person, a human being, lovely person not necessarily Denny, not Denny, shares many lovely characteristics, which is he is kind and funny and charming and great to be around and loves his dog. With is a good thing by the way. And I want to clear that I am not in any way stalking him, as you guys can report to the judge later. So this is on record that there is nothing untoward going on. Absolutely not. Well I had to ask that because that was indeed something we talked about. Stalking? Yes, we always talk about stalking. Or formal wear or his clothes? Stalking people in formalwear. His clothes were a big deal. It was very interesting trying to figure out what he would be wearing and we tried to come up with something that felt like it reminded you of his clothes because we’ve only seen him in clothes, actual clothes a couple of times, it reminded you of his clothes but it wasn’t his clothes but he also looked good in it. But it also felt a little bit magically which is, you know cashmere always works, if your trying to feel magical at home apparently. By the way think of that for gift giving. If you ever want to actually elevate somebody’s magic, buy cashmere. And he looks yummy but also to some degree it’s the way Izzie’s imagining him or seeing him. Whatever you believe. And you can believe either one. Because she is clearly seeing him and it doesn’t seem like anybody else is seeing him. I always like to talk about this and for the record from now on I’m gonna talk about this from Izzie’s perspective because it just makes it easier to stop, for me to not sit and wonder what he is, as much the fact that Izzie see him makes him real, nobody else sees him which is the problem, that’s an issue. But she see him and so for her those are the clothes that she sees him in, the clothes she imagined him wearing. You do sort of say, “Can he leave the hospital?”, he seems to be hanging around with the operations. You start to feel like you’re not sure. And the progression of the first episode is that he’s just appearing and he’s around and he’s not speaking and it’s very scary, I mean not scary but “What’s going on?” and maybe she just having visions of him or having flashes of him in her head and at the end of the episode he speaks, which we love. And then the next episode after that, These Ties That Bind, he’s speaking and he’s with her and he’s hanging out and she’s really trying to ignore him and try and find a way for him to go away but we never see him outside the hospital until the very end when he’s in her bedroom, which is another step forward. After she burns the sweater. Which is also to crossover to both episodes is I love the entire story with the Indian and the heart because I find it incredibly moving that this guy at a particular moment totally sees and realizes she got a ghost and the ghost is in the room and she’s desperately trying to figure out and answer for what the hell is going on and that time this guy comes with the entire heart and he has the heart taken out and the heart is beating, which there is no medical explanation but there is a medical explanation for, is such a great combination of events. And the progression of Denny basically starting with just seeing, talking, touching you can only hope what else happens I think. The other things that was interesting to me about Rise Up was Lexie and her gathering of corpses, what I loved about it is was great and funny and all of our characters have that great lunchroom scene where they’re working on those corpses and they’re eating salad and they’re talking about stuff and they’re treating the corpses like nothing. And you feel like there nothing, like as an audience member you’re sort of like, “It’s funny, they’re eating salad over the corpses”. Until see poor Ed and Rosie the older couple where the husband won’t stop pumping the heart and she dies and then Bailey finds those corpses just lying about with food dishes on top them and says “ Each one of these people was somebody’s somebody”. And I love that moment that you come to realize the things that you take for granted and I wanted it to be that way for us. I mean at home we don’t normally take corpses for granted, I certainly don’t and I don’t think you do. But if you were a surgeon you would and I thought it was very interesting to take something and make it feel light and funny and really humanize it in that way was lovely. And well then turn around and like the interns we have paid any attention to them and I felt as bad when Bailey yelled at me as when she yelled at the interns because I wasn’t paying attention to the corpses. The whole storyline of Ed and Rosie I find that so incredibly moving and I think for Derek and for Bailey it has different kinds of resonance. For Derek to actually see a couple that has endured this long that loves each other like this. It’s so much about, it’s a marathon not a sprint. It‘s so much about his future and the way he wants to feel. And the tolerance involved of you know Meredith on the phone in the middle of the night with Cristina reading the Harry Potter books, that are her mother’s journals. But I love that because its feels sweet and I love his fix, which is so boy. To go to Mark Sloan. If I could just get her involved with someone else, perhaps I could have my girlfriend all to myself. Just for the record, the worst possible pairing, kind of in the history of television to me, is Cristina and Mark Sloan. Which made it so funny. Which is so great. And she has no idea what he is doing. She is kryptonite to all of his powers. He is not even good at flirting with her really. Cause she’s just not giving him to go on or anything to work from, she’s like a wall for him. And I love the moment that she realizes that he flirting on her and its sort of ridiculous. Also just for the record Ed and Rosie, Rosie is played by Bonnie Barlett, that’s a little bit of a nod to St. Elsewhere, which is a show that I think is phenomenal and we all love over here. She was of course was William Daniels wife and is in real life and did a phenomenal job as did George Cough who has done a bunch of stuff including Private Practice and is a phenomenal actor and I just think it he is a wonderful actor. We’re really, really lucky here sometimes cause we get this quality of performer and every once in a while we get these people we just gigantically admire who we get to work with. This was a couple that we were totally psyched to have here too. Kinda of a nice shout out to them as well. What about the dummy?.... that we actually broke. Let me just say for the record, that dummy, Stan was played by and actual medical simulation dummy called iStan a wildly expensive piece of machinery that did all the things that iStan did and probably did them better and probably would have continued to do them better for some medical school or some medivac training program or some trauma program. But Stan wasn’t really ready for television, he was an awesome piece of equipment but I don’t think he was meant to be used in sort of the brutalizing way that he was used. Which is to redo that procedure 58 times! I think we also drowned him in fake blood because basically Stan bled more than any human being would actually bleed, so we kept adding blood. I’m not assigning any blame should the iStan people be listening to us, maybe we didn’t have anything to do with him drowning in blood. Maybe actually there nothing wrong with him, just perception. And if you guys feel like you might want to buy an iStan I highly recommend it, he’s kind of awesome. There great to have around the house and by the way if you’re alone. I endorse him, I totally totally do. Sit across iStan at dinner. But we totally killed that doll. We did. We killed him. But I thought the story line was hilarious and we had a lot of fun with the idea that Richard was the man behind the curtain. The powerful Oz. Yeah, and we worked on that voice which is actually four voices melded together to make the voice of iStan forever. And I love Owen’s whole figuring it out that it’s Richard, the whole conversation in front of George. And poor George who just quietly throughout the entire episode is just carving away at iStan to make sure that he can actually fix something. And he’s very funny. I have two favorite moments in the episode. One of them is Owen and Cristina, when Owen basically yells at her “did you even bother to find out the patients name” and Cristina closes the door and tells him how her father died. Yep. Cause he says you know “is that all you care about is winning contests?” And she tells him how her father died and she says that’s why she’s good at her job, that’s why she wants to be a heart surgeon and that’s why she wins all the contests. And it’s such a beautiful moment and then she leaves the room and Owen calls her a single malt scotch, which I loved and it’s one of the reason why I love Owen deeply in a deeply stalkery way. I am stalking Owen. Not stalking Denny, I am stalking Owen. So the to do list of stalkeringg I was gonna have to switch out, cause if you’re already stalking him I gotta find somebody else to stalk. God I hate this part. So the other favorite moment of the episode is where Erica and Callie in the end of the episode. When Erica says to her “You can’t kind of help people, you can’t kinda be a lesbian” which is a thing which has been bubbling under the surface ever since she in the last episode when she told her story about leaves and “I’m gay, I’m gay, I’m so, so gay” which I thought was one of the most beautiful I’ve seen Erica Hahn do. And so when we got to this point when she says “You can’t kind of be a lesbian” and Callie says “Yes I can” you understand the fundamental problem is between them. And it’s incredibly painful and I just think for Erica Hahn everything is in black and white and I think the point that you come to at the end of this episode is this is a world of grey .... no pun intended. But I also think in just a fundamental way she went through this enormous change, she figured out something and a lightbulb came on and I think its got to be really terrifying and upsetting that you take this journey and you turn to the person who you took this journey with and they’re basically saying “ I don’t know” “I didn’t take this journey, I’m still back there, you’re all alone” which is really frustrating. And when you finally have that kind of clarity it’s incredibly angering too. Yeah, I really felt bad for Erica in that moment cause it was really heartbreaking for me. I feel incredibly sympathetic towards her with the heart patient and I understand the entire issue and how deeply she felt about it. I think her heart was broken on a number of levels. I mean her faith in the hospital based on Richard. She couldn’t walk through those doors again because every single thing she believed to be true wasn’t. And because I think she has a particular clarity of vision, she know what she thinks about things and she’s surrounded by people who don’t. Who were constantly debating, when she clearly knows right from wrong. And in her head what those rules are. It’s an incredibly sad moment and also in a weird way liberating for her because she actually took a stand as to what she believed and in this world of waffling, when you think of this woman who started the season by being accused of she’s being a terrible teacher, trying to figure out a way to teach, being incredibly frustrated every turn of the way, it just feels as though Seattle Grace would be a very, very difficult place for her to be. And also they’re number 12, and she thinking there’s someplace better. And I love how it comes around in the end in next episode in These Ties That Bind for Callie who sort of goes through saying “I’m fine” and gets that moment where she’s been holding it all in and holding it all in and holding it all in and then the guy whose bones she’s been building dies and she just loses it. And the two people that stayed behind are Cristina and Sloan there’s something incredibly moving. And one of my favorite moments is when Cristina says “Why don’t you guys leave we’ve got it from here” and then Sloan says it and then Owen screams “Get out!” to everybody for which some reason, it’s amazing because the penny finally drops and you also see how much Callie did care. You really feel how much Callie cared and how this sort of unresolved quality for Callie I think is she thought she could kind of resolve all the problems by building a mans legs. She could throw herself into her work and everything would be fine, she wouldn’t have to think about it. There’s faith in fixing things and there’s just some things that couldn’t be fixed and that’s tragedy of the relationship for her. How about Death and Die? Death and Die. We named Sadie, we came up with the character, we named Sadie, we talked about in the room, we had millions of discussions about Sadie and it wasn’t until three days later I sat up in the middle of the night and I was like “Their names are Death and Die!” and felt really good about it. Because you have this relationship with somebody which you are a totally different person at a certain point in your life. Totally. And you have these different nicknames, and everybody calls Mer, Mer, like that’s her name. I love that Cristina says “Her name’s not Death! it’s Mer” which is ridiculous. But it’s that thing that you have this whole relationship where you are this whole tequila drinking, bar hopping kind of girl which what Meredith was in those days. Yep. And that’s how Sadie knows her and Sadie knows her as they were Death and Die. See and what I love is that Meredith is a serial best friender. I don’t think Cristina was, so the thing is when Cristina see Sadie show up, it’s a phenomenal affront to Cristina because meets her life and Meredith survives. Which means you go to places, you bond, it doesn’t make the bond any less deep, its just Meredith is a survivalist. That is what she’s always been. And I think on a very basic level it’s just crushing for Cristina. I also I’ve got to say I love this whole whacko thing which is going on with A. how crazy Lexie is, cause Lexie last week stole a bunch of cadavers. And we established last season she steals things. She’s a kleptomaniac, but also the weird thing is she is a wild card, she’s a loose cannon. You think she’s one thing and she’s another. She’s off the rails sometimes, she way more hard core. This whole idea that these interns are in a room cutting each other and practicing stitches which by the way is based on fact. It’s based on stories we were told by some doctors who shall remain nameless. But apparently this is something that in desperation some people do. But what I love about this season is that it’s all about a number 12 teaching hospital because nobody’s teaching. So here we get to episode 7 and 8 and what becomes clear, is that even though Richard is under the impression they’re building up the teaching hospital and this whole idea of the teaching hospital by bringing in .... Everybody is busy being out for themselves that the interns are left to teach themselves. They bring in Dr. Dixon whose a whole other issue. That was actually amazing because when we came up with the character I kept saying wouldn’t it be great if Mary McDonnell could play this character. And I kept saying it’s a heart surgeon with Asperger’s and it will be really interesting because what I loved about the idea was there are many parts of Asperger’s that suggest there is a lot of impairment social interaction but part of that impairment social interaction that makes it possible that you can spend time reading people’s emotional queues also makes it possible for you to focus incredibly well on details and facts and things and such things as rules. Which you can see that kind of person would be a flawless surgeon, maybe not so good with patients or other doctors but a flawless surgeon because part of you learns better because you’re not bothered by all the emotional queues going on in your life that make all the rest of us spend time wondering how people feel about us. Or have we been nice enough or should we be sharing our scalpel with somebody else. It’s the elimination of strategy too, because there’s no strategizing, so she simply about the objective.... following the objective and reaching the objective. And which there’s that whole beautiful speech about hearts, and then you look at her because she’s all in red which I have always noticed that just popped. She’s in this amazing red coat and intense red hat because she loves the color and she loves the ventricles and she love the fact there’s all these explanations. And McDonnell came to the role with a phenomenal level of... I mean she had done all this research and she so wanted to play the character in a true way. And she wanted to make sure she honored the Asperger’s community and she really felt strongly about it. We had lots of discussion about what this character was and what the mannerisms were and one of the things that ended up happening was we were trying to figure out the character and she had this red coat and I said she should have a little red hat, kinda like a little girl, wearing a lot of the same clothes.... she has her comfort levels. And so she has her coat and red hat that are adorably sweet but are a little bit strange on a grown woman. When she first make the entrance, the impact because nobody know her and everyone is excited to meet her and this woman walks in looking like Little Red Riding Hood. It’s hysterical but she felt it was oddly comforting to her because it’s sort of like her armor, how come when she operates you’ll notice that her entire head is covered in a thing whereas everyone else just wears their surgical cap, her entire head is covered in like this tent like thing. Which is more isolating and makes her feel safe. So it was really interesting talking to her and figuring out those ideas and how that character was going to work. And I love the moment when she just shames Bailey, cause you rarely see Bailey get shamed like that. It was sort of phenomenal to watch Bailey’s face as Dr. Dixon exits the elevator and says “I don’t think I like this hospital at all”. Intern Fight Club. Intern Fight Club, they got some issues don’t you think. I would say maybe a little bit. I’m a little worried about the injection of Sadie into that bloody world.... I don’t think Sadie’s helping, I’m going to be blunt. I think Die not helping at all. I would say the Die is a little bit of a loose cannon. I’m actually thinking the mixture of Die and Lexie is really potent and horrifying. Exactly. Cause it looks to me like Die will do anything and is fearful of nothing which is both intoxicating to watch and really troubling because this hospital is already on the brink of disaster and yet you entered in this character who clearly has seemingly has no fear of authority, offending people or danger or pain. The moment in which she actually cuts herself and every single guy in the room raises his hand. It was great. And Lexie actually looks pissed. Because Ryan, the actor who plays Ryan ad libs a line that we thought was so great we kept it in the show, which was “Right here!” Also one of my most favorite things about the episode at the very, very end Meredith agrees to tell Derek the story, one of the stories of Death and Die, but they don’t tell us. Which we love, which is great. We talked a lot about it in the writer’s room, what should the story be, what should the story be and I told this story in the writer’s room about what it was and we decided we were never gonna tell the audience. Because it made it juicer to not know and whatever you put in you head what you imagined would probably be more interesting than whatever we said. Probably, but you do have something in your head. Yeah, one day maybe we’ll tell you, yeah, you never know. That’s happened before. There are things that you actually have in the back of you head that you say you’ll never ever tell and you might end up telling. Yeah like, with Meredith and her mom. I save things, when I need them. You may be surprised in ways that you have no idea. It’s always a crapshoot. And my other favorite moment is the kiss between Cristina and Owen in the alley outside the bar. Oh dude. My god. Come on, I mean there’s nothing you can say about that, that’s just ridiculous. What I love about it, it starts out feeling a little bit violent and little bit dangerous in a way that’s maybe not so good. (To Shonda..... this from a woman who’s actually a stalker, is actually pretty good.) In a way that make you a little bit worried about Cristina’s safety. And she’s a tiny little thing and you realize in that alley, he’s a big guy. And she’s a tiny little thing and she’s formidable but not with him somehow. He’s.... he’s Heathcliff, standing on moors and he’s fabulous. That moment to me is like this person who is totally in charge, this woman who is totally directed and focused and totally having to give up control. If anybody else had done that to her, she not only would not have kissed them back she would have kicked the crap out of them when it was over. There’s something about Owen that needs some taking care of. Yup. That she sees in a way that nobody else sees. Owen is like this hurt little bird that needs some taking care of and in a weird way by the time he comes away from that kiss he’s so much weaker than she is and she’s has all the power and so she just walks away. Which I love. We can analyze this to death but come on it’s just hot, yeah it’s just hot. The next episode is called In the Midnight Hour. I love this episode, this is what I’m gonna say about this episode. This episode is so incredibly good and so incredibly haunting that there’s a lot more there than meets the eye and everybody’s gonna get pushed. That’s a really good way of putting it. There’s a lot happens in this episode, a lot more happens than you ever expect. I think this is one of those crucial episodes to watch in real time. You don’t want to actually be behind in this episode. You want to sit and watch it on the television you have in front of you because .... it’s really good. So that’s pretty much it for us. Shonda’s gonna go off to her secret stalking position and I going to go try and find something else to do. This is Shonda, this is Betsy. This is Grey’s Anatomy Edited by oncetherewasaway, Nov 22 2008, 12:53 AM.



oncetherewasaway	Sep 20 2008, 12:54 PM Post #10
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	EPISODE RECAP 11/13/2008 - "These Ties That Bind" Season 5, Episode 508 Cristina surprises Meredith and Derek in bed to announce that Erica Hahn has left Seattle Grace. Just then, one of Meredith's oldest friends, Sadie arrives, flinging herself into Meredith's arms. "I've never even heard of this woman. How good a friend can she be?" Cristina protests. "Good enough to kick us both out of bed. Welcome to my world," says Derek. Sadie says that Meredith is the reason she went to med school, but she postponed her residency to work in a morgue. Now, she says she craves "flowing blood." "She's your pre-Cristina Cristina," Derek comments to Meredith and wants to know where the nickname "Deth" came from. "Oh no, the adventures of Deth and Die are better left untold," she replies. Izzie is reluctant to go to work after having had to face the man whose heart she stole for Denny, and when she does enter the hospital, Denny is right there, waiting for her. His ghost stays with her all day, as she sits with a man who has a "piggyback" heart transplant that is too small for him. The patient, who is a Navajo, believes that he is haunted by the young girl whose heart he received, and he wants it removed, even if it means he'll die. He realizes that Izzie is haunted by her own ghost and tells her, "I don't need any more ghosts in the operating room." After the girl's heart is removed, the man's heart starts beating on its own and Izzie believes, as does he, that he is no longer haunted. He tells her he's going to burn the heart, so she decides to burn her last possession of Denny's, the sweater she made him. When she spies mysterious scratches on Lexie's arm, Cristina suspects that she's a secret "cutter," not realizing that the cuts come from Lexie practicing techniques with the other interns. Derek hears Cristina's suspicions about Lexie and urges Meredith to step in and help. "She's your family," he tells her. Meredith asks Lexie if she's okay, and that she's "just wondering if you're channeling your tragic pain into self-mutilation." Lexie tells the interns that they need to shut down for a while, but newcomer Sadie suggests they keep going. She tells Lexie, "You're only going to learn so much by being careful,"and -- to the shock of the other interns -- takes off her shirt, and cuts herself on the shoulder. "Who wants to stitch me up?" she offers. "I want to rock a surgery and I don't want to talk about Hahn," Callie tells Cristina when she asks what happened with Erica. Fortunately, for her, a highly complicated case arrives: a homeless man who was crushed in a dumpster, and who is now impaled on his own leg. He tells them if they can't save his leg, which looks very unlikely, he doesn't want to live. Owen tells Cristina to make the patient comfortable, and that the surgery is off. Derek asks Callie, "Please tell me you can figure out a way to build this man some legs." She consults the X-rays and decides she can rebuild the leg, which she does, but the homeless man dies on the operating table. Callie breaks into sobs, saying that she did her part and that everyone else let her down. Mark stays to comfort her as she cries out her grief. Richard asks Miranda to show the visiting heart specialist Dr. Dixon around, but warns her that she is a "little off," as Miranda finds out when Dixon keeps reciting historical trivia about heart surgery. It turns out she has Asperger's Syndrome and has difficulty interacting with others, preferring to stick to the laws of medicine. Lexie demonstrates amazing skill with a "pulley stitch" and Richard, assuming that it was Cristina who taught it to her, tells the resident, "You're my one to watch," for the solo surgery. Cristina discovers the underground intern surgery ring and orders them to shut it down. "Do not practice on yourself," she says. "That is insane." Izzie tells Denny's ghost that she will always love him and that she'll never forget him. But even though she's said goodbye and burned the sweater, he is still there. "Touch me," he urges her and when she reaches out her hand, she can feel his heart beating. 'I told you I was real," he says and kisses her. Mark, Cristina, and Callie drink their sorrows over being single away, but Callie drifts over to Sadie and offers to buy her a drink. Owen runs into Cristina outside the bar, visibly upset about losing a patient, and then he kisses her unexpectedly. Edited by oncetherewasaway, Nov 21 2008, 12:04 PM.



oncetherewasaway	Sep 20 2008, 12:54 PM Post #11
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	COMPANY BLOGS Grey Matter Stacy McKee on "These Ties That Bind"... Original Airdate: 11-13-08 I have this vase. It has its very own spot, right in the center of my breakfast room table, directly in front of the window, where the light will shine through it. It’s beautiful – Murano glass with multicolored stripes of orange and yellow and pink and blue… I love this vase. It was an engagement gift, and it’s one of a kind. Irreplaceable. And a few weeks ago, my kitten figured out how to jump up onto my breakfast room table (but he couldn’t figure out how to STAY on the table) so my new little kitten skidded all the way across the top of the table and crashed onto the floor below… taking my vase with him. I jumped into action – first making sure my kitten wasn’t hurt, then starting the task of carefully sweeping up every last shard of broken glass… Only, as I stood there, broom in hand, staring down at all those beautiful broken shards, I started to cry. And cry. And cry and cry and cry and cry and pretty soon my husband was there, trying to figure out how I could possibly be sobbing – SOBBING – over what was, let’s face it, a PIECE OF GLASS. And through my crazy, slightly manic tears, I managed to blurt out that it wasn’t just a piece of glass! It was a beautiful vase. A beautiful vase that made me happy every time I looked at it and that was important because sometimes we all need reminders of things that make us happy. That vase was from a time in our life when things were new and bright and just beginning and now it’s gone. The vase is gone forever, there’s no way to bring it back. I felt connected to that vase, and I already missed it. I MISSED THE DAMN VASE. Is what I said. Through my tears. Gesturing with my broom. Which was pretty ridiculous. Only, not – because what you don’t know is that over the summer, my dad passed away. Then a couple of weeks later, my cat passed away. Which is the only reason I have a new kitten in the first place. And the truth is – this was probably the first time I’d really – REALLY – let myself cry. I finally let myself start to feel that incredible mish mash of feelings we all have when we lose people who are important to us. I was crying for all the loss I’d been feeling for months. And it took a shattered vase to help me let it out. In Callie Torres’s case… all it takes is some shattered bones. I know, I know – Hahn isn’t dead. But she IS gone. And Callie is feeling it – sort of. Callie’s diving into work. She wants bones to break, skeletons to build, SOMETHING to keep her from thinking about Erica. Erica played an unbelievably important role in Callie’s life; Erica’s relationship with Callie has completely redefined how Callie sees herself. That’s something you can’t undo. Erica’s departure has left Callie with this big gaping hole that she has no idea how to fill. Callie had just started to figure out her own feelings, her own identity and now – Hahn’s gone. Without a goodbye. Whether or not Callie and Erica were ever soul mates, you can’t deny that they played irreplaceable roles in each other’s lives. The heartbreak that Callie is feeling is very very real. And very very private until – she starts to cry, and cry and cry and cry, in the OR, over the bones that she built from scratch. She’s crying for all the loss and heartbreak and sadness she hasn’t allowed herself to really feel yet. Which is why it’s so lovely that Callie’s friends – Yang, Sloan, and even Owen – recognize the moment for what it is and try to give her the privacy she needs to mourn. Kinda like me with my vase. Only, Sara Ramirez looks WAY more glamorous than me when she cries. Callie isn’t the only one feeling a lack of connection. It’s clear that Owen is having difficulty adjusting to life at SGH. He calls in Derek and Mark for help, then disregards their concerns about his patient. I love watching Owen’s face when he’s listening to his patient’s story, about how somewhere along the way the patient just lost the ability to connect. It’s clear that it resonates with Owen, and it’s only after that moment that he really becomes receptive to Derek. And I think that it’s because of that moment that Owen goes in for that kiss with Cristina… Owen doesn’t want to lose his ability to connect with other people. But, obviously, he’s having some difficulty connecting gracefully – that kiss isn’t soft or romantic. It’s a little desperate –- at least at first. What’s nice is that Cristina seems to recognize this. And even though she walks away from Owen in the end, there’s no judgment there. It’s just that she doesn’t quite know what to do with all the feelings she’s feeling… Which brings me to Cristina. And how displaced she’s got to be feeling in this episode… because of Sadie. Meredith’s Pre-Cristina Cristina. Sadie knew Meredith back when Mer was traveling around Europe. Back when Mer was a little wilder and a little crazier (What? You think a girl who can throw back multiple tequila shots and perform surgery the next day doesn’t have a past?) Back when, apparently, Meredith’s nickname was Death. Sadie shares history with Meredith that Cristina can’t. She’s connected to Meredith in a way that Cristina never can be… and that’s uncomfortable for Cristina. She doesn’t like to share – she especially doesn’t like to share her person. One story I love in this episode involves Meredith and her other person – Derek. Meredith and Derek are as healthy and happy as we’ve ever seen them. And what I love is that they are functioning the way solid, happy couples function. In this case, Derek sees a chance for Meredith to connect with her sister, he encourages her to do so – and it works. Once Meredith talks to Lexie, she does get worried about her little sister’s well being, and enlists Derek’s help keeping Little Sloan out of Little Grey. Which, by the way, really IS one of the most ridiculous things any grown man (especially Derek Shepherd) could say to one another man. And that makes it all the more sweet that Derek is perfectly willing to say it to Mark Sloan. He does it for Meredith. Which makes me love him for loving her so completely. In an episode about connection, I also love that we introduce a character whose very identity is wrapped up in the fact that she has difficulty connecting with the people around her. Dixon (played beautifully by Mary McDonnell) has Aspergers syndrome, which is a mild form of autism. This doesn’t keep her from being an incredible surgeon; in fact, her obsessive interest in the human heart is probably the very thing that has helped her master it. But her condition does keep her from being able to communicate with patients or with our doctors in a way that we’re use to… The moment in the elevator, when Bailey finally realizes why Dixon is the way she is… Couldn’t love it more. Because it’s so rare that Bailey, of all our characters, ever oversteps. Only it’s so clear that she has and that she’s ashamed of it. And then, of course, there’s Izzie. Who is clearly still connected to Denny, even beyond the grave… Here’s what I’ll say about Denny. I want you to take a moment, and just think for a second. About what you would do if someone you lost, who was unbelievably important to you, suddenly showed up in your room. Right now. While you’re sitting at your computer and reading this blog and suddenly feeling a chill on the back of your neck and hearing, from behind you, in a familiar voice: “Hi.” It’s someone – your lover, your parent, your grandparent, your best friend, your ex-fiancée… someone you thought was gone forever and suddenly now they are right there. Standing next to you. Asking you to talk to them, asking you to hold their hand. Sure, at first you’d be scared and freaked out and seriously considering the possibility that you might very well be crazy… but in the next moment, what would you do? You have wished every day since that person left that you could see them, touch them, just one more time. What would you do? I know what I’d do. I’d take my dead dad’s hand. And we’d sit there and stay up all night talking about all the things we never got a chance to talk about. And I wouldn’t care if he was dead or if I was crazy because it would be so great just to hear his voice again. So, can you imagine, if you were Izzie, what you might do if Denny suddenly appeared to you? And after trying to ignore him, and trying to say goodbye to him, and even after BURNING his fricking sweater, he was STILL there… All I’m saying is… maybe this is one connection that gets to defy all logic and common sense and, instead, maybe it just gets to be. Even if it does seem too good to be true. Like the new vase that magically appeared on my desk the other day. I walked into my office and there it was. Just like new. Like magic. (Turns out my husband secretly contacted the glass factory in Venice that made my vase, found their one local retailer in the states, and – amazingly – was able to track down an almost near replica of the very vase my kitten shattered. He snuck into my office in the middle of my work day and left it there for me.) But to me it was magic. My magical Murano vase, back from the dead. And in that moment, for so so many reasons, I’d never been so happy. November 13, 2008 in Stacy McKee ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Emerald City Bar ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Nurse’s Station ... Debbie Does Seattle Grace Nurse Debbie On "Those Ties That Bind"... Izzie Stevens has lost it. I mean it. She’s gone. I caught her talking to herself today. Several times… just having a little conversation. I know that what happened to her with Hahn and the whole transplant gone wrong guy really affected her. How could it not? I mean, besides the massive guilt, she’s probably overwhelmed with Denny Duquette thoughts. She’s probably depressed and missing him again. I bet anything that’s why she’s talking to herself. I remember when the incident happened and Izzie’s first week back. She talked to herself then. Kind of gave herself mini pep talks. I could tell she was just trying to get through the day. But this is different – Izzie, to me, seemed to be talking to SOMEONE. I know it’s silly but I poked my head into the gallery to check on my patient. He’s such a nice man. And what a miracle that his heart now beats on its own!! Anyway, Izzie was in the gallery. Alone. And she was sitting there, holding a conversation with someone. It kind of freaked me out so I told Nurse Tyler at the end of the night. He told me that he saw Izzie saying “goodbye” to absolutely no one before leaving the hospital. It’s like, she's on the verge of a nervous breakdown. How long can she continue to talk to the air before someone, like the Chief witnesses this behavior? I honestly feel bad for her. I mean, she’s had it tough here. I hope things get better for her because it looks like Izzie Stevens can’t take one more bad thing happening… Two questions? Um, what happened to Hahn? And, what happened to Hahn? She was here and then she wasn’t. I know that she was a little peeved at the whole Izzie/Denny “incident” and that she was a lot peeved at Callie for not taking her side in wanting to report Izzie but to just leave? Walk out? Especially on a relationship is just crazy. I thought Callie took it pretty well until she broke down in the OR when her patient died. I just want the kid to have a break. Enough with her getting hurt. Hahn was obviously not adult enough for the relationship. Come on people. You just walk out on a relationship when your partner doesn’t side with you???? Who does that??? Hahn should be prepared to walk out on relationships for the rest of her life if that’s the case. I wish her well and hope that she continues to save lives with her amazing talent. I also hope that she just grows up enough to sustain a relationship that lasts more than five minutes. We may have a new cardiothoracic surgeon named Dr. Dixon. What’s she like? Two words: freaking weird. We have a new intern who is connected to Meredith Grey. One word: trouble. My day is done here. One word: beer. November 14, 2008 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Intern Formerly Known as Steve Edited by oncetherewasaway, Nov 21 2008, 11:36 AM.



oncetherewasaway	Sep 20 2008, 12:55 PM Post #12
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	RECAPS & REVIEWS & RATINGS BUDDYTV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- CHICAGO TRIBUNE ----------------------------------------------------------------------- CINEMA BLEND TV Recap: Grey's Anatomy - These Ties That Bind- 2008-11-14 It's a fairly intense episode this week. Denny's still around, Bailey has to babysit a Cylon heart surgeon and a man haunted by his own heart, and the McCrew has to save a human pretzel's life while Callie builds him a new skeleton and deals with Erica Hahn suddenly leaving. With Hahn "just gone", the Chief is on the hunt for a new Attending Cardiothroacic Surgeon and he's tasked Bailey with wooing one of tonight's guest stars - President Laura Roslin from Battlestar Galactica - into joining the staff. Continuing the BSG references, the guest surgeon seems more like a Cylon, obsessing over rules and regulations and things being just a certain way to the exclusion of everything and everyone else around her. Because I have a cousin with Asperger's Syndrome, I recognized the symptoms fairly early, but I think we were really supposed to spend the episode wondering what was up with her, so I'm sorry for spoiling that surprise. ......cont’d http://www.cinemablend.com/television/TV-Recap-Grey-s-Anatomy-These-Ties-That-Bind-13410.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- EW.COM ‘Grey’s Anatomy’: Matters of the Heart – Nov 14, 2008 Grey's Anatomy is oftentimes oddly on point — even when it's not. Which is to say that it can sometimes hit at something surprisingly of the moment, given that it's shot weeks ahead of time, even when it's not the greatest episode of all time. This episode, for instance, introducing two new characters just after the unceremonious departure of Brooke Smith's wonderfully prickly Erica Hahn, made Grey's seem like an entirely new show. A discombobulatingly new show that seemed to reflect how a lot of us feel as the crap economy forces massive layoffs and troubling new times that are just disorienting enough to make us feel a little crazy. Honestly, at this point, what isn't new and changing and totally different from how it was a year ago? Cont… http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20240456,00.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- LA TIMES ----------------------------------------------------------------------- MSNBC ----------------------------------------------------------------------- NEW YORK MAGAZINE ----------------------------------------------------------------------- TV GUIDE Roush Dispatch: Memo to Grey’s: Give Up the Ghost! – Nov 14, 2008 Ghosts are big business on TV these days, I get it — wait till you see what CBS's Friday hit Ghost Whisperer has in store for Melinda and her newly deceased hubby Jim over the next few weeks. But where Grey's Anatomy is concerned, Izzie shouldn't have sent Alex to burn Denny's sweater to rid her of her dead lover's ghost — a J. Crew exorcism? She should have sent him out to burn the script. Cont… http://www.tvguide.com/Roush/Roush-Greys-Anatomy-67009.aspx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- TV SQUAD Grey's Anatomy: These Ties That Bind - Nov 14th 2008 (S05E08) "It's too bad - she was really talented." - Shepherd Snap! Well that didn't take long. Thirty seconds into the episode and Shonda Rhimes made it very clear how she feels about Brooke Smith's departure from the show. Even though I didn't like the whole Callie/Hahn romance and even though I thought Hahn's exit actually made a bit of sense (it was written well), I still don't see why it was necessary to fire Smith. There had to have been a better way to fix the story without removing her. Regardless, no sense in whining. She's gone and Seattle Grace Hospital now has two new faces for everyone to gossip about..........there’s more http://www.tvsquad.com/2008/11/14/greys-anatomy-these-ties-that-bind/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- USA TODAY ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ZAP2IT ‘Grey’s Anatomy’: I love you, I always have. Ditto. – Nov 14, 2008 I'm guest-blogging for two shows tonight and one of them is Grey's Anatomy. I'll be honest... I was head-over-heels for this show when it first started. The writing was strong, the acting was great and the storylines were interesting. It lost me a little with the we-have-no-chemistry-whatsoever-couple of George and Izzie happened. But Mary McDonnell is guest-starring now and she rules the school, so let's see what is happening tonight at Seattle Grace... Cont.. http://blog.zap2it.com/ithappenedlastnight/2008/11/greys-anatomy-i.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ‘Grey’s’ Thoughts: Hahn’s Gone; Izzie’s Nuts; Hunt Is, Too? – Nov 14, 2008 Thoughts on last night's "Grey's Anatomy": OK, so Hahn is gone; new Army doc is nutso; and the Denny ghost that Izzie's been seeing is actually ... real? I'm not typically one for "jump the shark" moments, but I'm pretty sure that when characters start seeing dead people and the show then tries to convince viewers that the visions are real, there's blood in the water. Now, I hope this isn't too spoilery -- and it shouldn't be because, as far as I've seen, nothing has been confirmed -- but there was talk after Katherine Heigl popped off about the writers not giving her Emmy-worthy material that they would give Izzie a brain tumor this season. As anyone who watches "Grey's" or "House" knows, a brain tumor can cause hallucinations. So, when Denny says, "I'm here for you, Izzie," does that mean she's got a first-class ticket to, ummm, wherever Denny is? Cont…. http://www.comcast.net/tv/seenontv/17116/greysthoughtshahnsgoneizziesnutshuntistoo/ RATINGS At 9 p.m. CBS' "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" won the hour with an 11.5/17. That was better than the 10.3/15 for "Grey's Anatomy," but the ABC medical soap won the hour in the 18-49 demographic. NBC was third with "The Office" (4.9/7) and "30 Rock"(4.5/7). FOX's "Kitchen Nightmares" beat the 2.5/4 for The CW's "Supernatural." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by oncetherewasaway, Nov 21 2008, 11:38 AM.



oncetherewasaway	Sep 20 2008, 12:55 PM Post #13
McEditor Posts: 1,625 Group: .Grey Girls. Member #23 Joined: October 25, 2006	DATES TO REMEMBER & OTHER STUFF We Begin Again So Derek got dead, Mer and Cristina got old together, and Izzie showed Denny her prom dress. Such is the stuff of dreams. Which was kind of my theme. For this episode. And this season. Dreams. And whether or not they come true. This is season five, people. We, the writers, we call it our all in, go for broke season. We’re like the Chief – the bar has been raised and we’re the ones raising it. For us, the show is new again. Full of chances and possibilities. Our characters are new again, starting fresh. We’re hopeful again. And we’re enjoying being hopeful. All the rules are changing. I know you are wondering, “Okay, what does this mean?” And I could tell you. But I’d rather you watch and see for yourselves. Watch what happens with Meredith and Derek, Cristina and that guy Owen, Callie and Erica, Bailey, the Chief, George, Lexie, Mark, Izzie and Alex. All the clues for this season are right there in this first episode. Nothing happens without a reason. Every line of dialogue has a point. At least, I hope it does. I’m pretty tired but I think I’m right. That’s all I’m going to say. Because we’re shooting the eighth episode right now. And I’ve got to get to the set to watch a scene being filmed. So you’ll have more to watch. I’ll try to write more later. Thanks for sticking with us. We’re going to do our damnedest to make it worth your while. The bar has been raised, people. Consider yourselves on notice. September 25, 2008 http://www.greyswriters.com/2008/09/we-begin-again.html Edited by oncetherewasaway, Nov 10 2008, 01:32 AM.



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