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TUF Season 10; Episode Discussions
Topic Started: Sep 17 2009, 02:41 PM (354 Views)
KardKrazy	Sep 17 2009, 02:41 PM Post #1
Elite Member Posts: 1,407 Group: Senior Member Member #7,579 Joined: September 10, 2008	Well I have to say I was highly disappointed with TUF last night. That first fight was bullshit. Although I am definitely rooting for Team Rampage (I just like the guy too much not to root for his team) I was definitely curious about some of his picks and I don't know what the hell he was thinking putting that big guy against a wrestler when the big guy didn't have ANY ground skills. Jesus, that had to be the most boring fight EVER in the history of the UFC. Although it was definitely the bloodiest. That gash was NASTY. I am VERY curious to see how Kimbo does as I am a big Kimbo fan. I love that guys sportsmanship. And I honestly think he has potential if he can get his ground game up to par. I have a feeling though he won't be fighting until about 3-4 weeks into the show if Rampage has anything to do about it. I know he wants to keep Kimbo out of the ring for as long as he can so he can train him. On a whole, I think the show will be very interesting though. Some of these guys will make for some good fights. later, Kj



cyke	Sep 17 2009, 05:47 PM Post #2
Maurice (YEOOW YEOOW!) Posts: 18,247 Group: Senior Member Member #28 Joined: June 29, 2005	Rampage is the worst coach in the history of the show. He made a horrible match-up, picked a horrible team, size does not always equal better. and gave horrible instructions during the fight. Yelling "You gotto do something" is not what his fighter needed to hear, he needed to hear exactly what he needed to do. He was beaten badly as a coach by Forrest, and I don't expect things to change vs Rashad. Plus Forrest had the Xtreme Couture team with him, and Rashad has the always brillant Greg Jackson camp in his corner. and Rampage brought Tiki? really? Page is a great fighter, but I'm just glad he doesn't coach himself. I have no beef with Kimbo, my beef was with the idiots at Exlite XC and CBS that promoted him as the greatest ever, and he was never anything of the sort. I'm sure it wasn't his idea to be marketed that way, and when someone is throwing alot of money your way, you just shut up and take it. So i hope he shows a little improvement, although I'm not picking him on winning his first fight if Rashad makes the match-up, hell, the way rampage is going, page will have kimbo fighting a black belt grappler.



BatHulk	Sep 17 2009, 05:55 PM Post #3
Senior Member Posts: 527 Group: Senior Member Member #7,648 Joined: February 6, 2009	Rampage is a hilarious on-screen personality... but his coaching skills are not as good as other coaches. Forrest clearly out-coached him in the other TUF but Rampage makes great television. I really like the trash-talking between him and Rashad... finally some animosity since the last time we saw any real heat between coaches was Hughes/Serra and Ortiz/Shamrock. I don't think you are going to see very technical matches this season so you may be disappointed like last night. I really don't understand Rampage's first fight pick, but that shows how limited his coaching skills are. During the match, he just kept saying "Do something" or "Get up"... yeah... uh... good coaching. But again... he's more there for the laughs: - Calling dibs on Kimbo - Making a "Rashad got knocked out by Machida" dance - Trying to pick the cameraman instead of the last pick - Making fun of one of the fighter's... uh... rhymes with "pity" - Commenting on how big the heavyweights are The last season, I would fast forward through the episode just to watch the fights, but not this one.



KardKrazy	Sep 17 2009, 06:01 PM Post #4
Elite Member Posts: 1,407 Group: Senior Member Member #7,579 Joined: September 10, 2008	Oh yeah I totally agree that Rashads team is going to take home the victory this season. I never once said Rampage was a good coach. He is far from it. But god that man is hilarious and he is a good fighter (not great mind you but good). Rashad is definitely the better fighter and coach (although I can't wait to see those two go at it in the octagon as both have the potential to be surprised). I honestly think Kimbo is one of Rampages best chances at winning this season. The dude is killer in his stand up, but god his ground game is just pitiful. I am really hoping he can get some extra training in the next couple of weeks to increase his skill level on the ground, because without it he is doomed. I don't EVER pay for Pay Per View stuff but if Kimbo actually makes it to the UFC I will pay to watch it=P. later, Kj P.S: My first pick would have been the hefty fat looking guy who is an experienced fighter who is undefeated. I can't remember his name but he was the one that in no way looks like a fighter but I think he definitely deserves to be someone to watch out for. Edited by KardKrazy, Sep 17 2009, 06:03 PM.



KardKrazy	Sep 17 2009, 06:25 PM Post #5
Elite Member Posts: 1,407 Group: Senior Member Member #7,579 Joined: September 10, 2008	Well doing a little research I found an interview that someone had with Kimbo recently and I think its safe to say he does well this Season. How well I don't know but the last line in the Interview shows he definitely goes further than what anyone expected: Quote: GAD: So, K, was it a difficult decision for you going in there, established as you are in a sense as a mixed martial artist, or at least as a �street fighter� ? KIMBO: �Going into the house was a decision I made to prove people wrong. There were multiple things I could have done. One of those was going into professional boxing. But going into the house was an opportunity to fight in the UFC, and to try to - considering all the bull Dana White had said about me - make the man eat his words. I wanted to get some respect and I think you will see that yes, I get that.� GAD: Was it strange in there with a group of large, mature men, obviously wanting to earn a UFC contract ? KIMBO: �You could feel loney in there. No contact with the outside world, and not seeing my six kids I found tough. There was that tendancy. I have a big family and we are under one roof and at times I got lonely in there because of that. But I stayed focussed because I was in there for one reason.� GAD: Who stands out for you at the moment in the UFC ? KIMBO: Brock Lesnar. He�s a big guy, one of the guys who was questioned when he came into MMA, like I was, and he is answering all the questions. He�s the guy to beat at the moment, and I�d like to fight him at some point. He�s come from a different environment, he�s taking it seriously, and he�s the champion. He�s the biggest threat in the division. He�s for real, and he�s got to be taken seriously as the champion. I don�t like him, but I like him, if you know what I mean. I think a fight between us one day would be good for tv and good for the fight game.� GAD: Kimbo Slice, role model ? KIMBO: �Role model is a big title. I make mistakes man. I try to be a role model for my kids, and when I make mistakes I can explain things to them. I don�t want to let them down. In the wider view, if some of the younger generation can relate to me, that�s great. I don�t want to hide myself away from the world, I still hang out, same people same friends. Believe me, I�m a humble guy. All the people who have known me a long time will tell you the same. I�m the same guy if I�m in a sandal or a shoe.� GAD: Do you wish you�d started training earlier in life ? KIMBO: �Lord, yes, I really didn�t know anything about MMA for a long time. I�m glad how things have gone but if I had been training in this sport for ten years, or as long as Randy Couture has, I�d be a different fighter altogether. Even half the time he has. I�d have been a threat in the UFC heavyweight division for a decade. Believe me. . GAD: And Dana White, the UFC president ? KIMBO: �I think he�s ate his words. We�ve had conversations - considering he knows me a little now - and because of the nature of the business, we understand each other. I guess he knows now that I �m not a thug, I�m not a guy right out of the ghetto, and that I take care of myself as a professional. He definitely knows that. Definitely.� later, Kj



cyke	Sep 17 2009, 10:00 PM Post #6
Maurice (YEOOW YEOOW!) Posts: 18,247 Group: Senior Member Member #28 Joined: June 29, 2005	I wouldn't call Kimbo's stand-up anything other than powerful, he reminds me of a bigger, blacker chris leben swing for the fences mentality. More technial savy fighters could pick him apart, plus in the one fight with sean gannon he ate alot of leg kicks, his opponents in eliteXC basically boxed with him, so we don't know how he has upped his kicking defense. Basically, Kimbo is a fun guy, and he seems pretty down to earth, but he has alot of questions hanging over his head, and even if he does well this season, it still won't mean he can hang with the top dogs in the UFC, but it will mean he has a chance at being there on day.



BatHulk	Sep 18 2009, 12:33 AM Post #7
Senior Member Posts: 527 Group: Senior Member Member #7,648 Joined: February 6, 2009	Heh... I didn't realize me and cyke almost posted the same thing. Twins?



Shadowtrooper	Sep 18 2009, 02:55 AM Post #8
Elite Member Posts: 2,950 Group: Senior Member Member #7,630 Joined: February 5, 2009	Is it odd that Kimbo who looks like a thug and acts like one most of the time expresses himself so well?



cyke	Sep 18 2009, 11:55 AM Post #9
Maurice (YEOOW YEOOW!) Posts: 18,247 Group: Senior Member Member #28 Joined: June 29, 2005	How does Kimbo act like a thug? I'm not a kimbo lover, but not a hate either, and besides street fighter, he has always shown respect to his opponents



BatHulk	Sep 18 2009, 05:30 PM Post #10
Senior Member Posts: 527 Group: Senior Member Member #7,648 Joined: February 6, 2009	Looks like Rampage vs. Rashad isn't going to happen. According to what I read, Rampage is starring as BA Barracus in the A-Team movie and dropped out of the PPV. Good choice in casting... but bad for MMA fans who wanted to see as Rampage put it "black on black crimes".



KardKrazy	Sep 18 2009, 05:33 PM Post #11
Elite Member Posts: 1,407 Group: Senior Member Member #7,579 Joined: September 10, 2008	BatHulk Sep 18 2009, 05:30 PM Looks like Rampage vs. Rashad isn't going to happen. According to what I read, Rampage is starring as BA Barracus in the A-Team movie and dropped out of the PPV. Good choice in casting... but bad for MMA fans who wanted to see as Rampage put it "black on black crimes". Something tells me that we might not see the fight right now, but we will more than likely see the fight before the end of 2011. They just have WAY to much animosity against each other not to bang heads in the octagon. Including Dana White KNOWS it would sell tickets. That would be a sold out crowd easily. later, Kj



cyke	Sep 18 2009, 09:57 PM Post #12
Maurice (YEOOW YEOOW!) Posts: 18,247 Group: Senior Member Member #28 Joined: June 29, 2005	this makes it the 2nd fight page has backed out of for money. he beat keith jaradin, and was next in line for the title shot vs lyoto machida, but he backed out of that to go be in TUF 10, and no he is backing out of the fight with rashad, to be a movie. and the rashard/rampage fight was going to take place in his home town of mephis, instead BJ penn is going to be fighting, now I know BJ is a good and popular fighter, but not bigger than page in his own town! Basically, page is shitting on his fans, and his killing all the hype that TUF 10 is giving him.



BatHulk	Sep 19 2009, 06:58 AM Post #13
Senior Member Posts: 527 Group: Senior Member Member #7,648 Joined: February 6, 2009	If I had to choose between acting in a high-profile movie or an MMA match... I would probably have chosen the movie too. I don't blame Rampage for his decisions... especially ones that keep you healthy (he does have kids to feed). The other thing is I think he also trying to repair his rep from his meltdown last year after he got his belt stolen by Griffin (yes... I don't think Griffin won that match). Maybe he'll retire... at least he won't go out as a suckah like some other top UFC veterans who keep losing.



Shadowtrooper	Sep 19 2009, 02:41 PM Post #14
Elite Member Posts: 2,950 Group: Senior Member Member #7,630 Joined: February 5, 2009	I thought Rampage stepped away from the fight with Mashida because he was injured.



cyke	Sep 19 2009, 09:11 PM Post #15
Maurice (YEOOW YEOOW!) Posts: 18,247 Group: Senior Member Member #28 Joined: June 29, 2005	Injured.. scared of machida.. knew he couldn't beat him.. you take your pick



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